The timing of the innate intelligence of the body is always perfect. The only thing that prevents its perfect execution are limitations of the matter carrying the message.
The timing of the innate intelligence of the body is always perfect. The only thing that prevents its perfect execution are limitations of the matter carrying the message.
That is what the biological ‘law of homeostasis’ is all about. Unfortunately, the majority of chiropractors fight it, the FCLB, ACA, NBCE, and CCE distance themselves from it [I actually had a major player in one of those chiropractic organizations tell me that the law of homeostasis is a theory, not a law] and the medical profession, while KNOWING this a scientific law, do not BELIEVE it.
Joseph,
Thank you for FINALLY addressing “timing” into COTB… It’s about time! 😉 –
– Time is the denied, always assumed, forgotten truth that is intrinsic to existence and its triunity which is intelligence creating force which is being expressed by matter in motion. –
– If we were inquire, together without condemnation, into the purpose of time within the triune and the biological law of homeostasis, where would our inquiry take us? Would it leave us with questions or answers as we MOVE toward a greater understanding of chiropractic philosophy?
Of all the 33 principles, TIME (P.6) stands alone. Every one of the other 32 Ps. address Intelligence, Force, the Transmission of Force, and Matter directly, or indirectly through the Cycle of Life (17-cause and effect, 32- coordination, 33- demand and supply) . So does Time bridge or transcend the division of metaphysical to physical?
Steve,
Before answering your excellent question (of bridging or transcending…) WHEN, WHERE and HOW, within the triune (intelligence, force, matter), do we observe, together without condemnation, the arrow of time flow?
Joseph,
It is important, if we are to inquire, together without condemnation, into the purpose of time, that we stay on this thread until we get to the bottom of it, otherwise our inquiry will be inconclusive. Do we have your permission to go ALL the way through?
Claude, as a chiropractic blog our discussion should relate to the chiropractic philosophy and objective. Of the 1,064 posts/threads on this blog, I have rarely cut off discussion and only when I find the discussion has gone far afield of chiropractic (probably in some cases not soon enough). I think my role is like that of a judge in a courtroom, I allow a line of questioning/discussion to continue unless someone says “i object”. Then I have to render a decision. As I recall, only a few times has someone objected to the discussion on a thread (as getting into theological issues) and I believe both times that “objection” came from you and was a valid objection. I am not sure that “the purpose of time” is a chiropractic issue except as it relates to Prin. #6 but for now I will allow the discussion to continue which has to do with timing.. When/if someone objects I will either sustain or overrule that objection. So far the discussion has been great.
Joseph,
Thank you.
Universal Intelligence within our philosophy is perfect therefore timeless. The force created by UI is then also timeless. The transmission of UF would in my opinion require time when manifested in physical reality (matter/energy) , such as sunlight traveling at the speed of light or gravity measured in feet per second per second. Innate Intelligence/Innate Force, again being perfect would be timeless. Here also time becomes a factor, in matter, with the IF transmission through matter and possibly the expression of IF by matter being measurable with time, whether it be the speed of nerve conduction or the gap between matter receiving IF and responding to IF. So in conclusion I would have to say TIME (P.6) is another Principle of Universal Law inherent in Matter. Therefore TIME is not metaphysical, only physical.
Steve,
Universal intelligence is perfect and timeless. The function of intelligence is to CREATE force (pri.8). To create instructive information is an activity manifested in motion by matter through a series of events implying time. Therefore, any function requires action which means that instructive information is manifested by motion in matter (pri.14). The motion of electrons, protons and neutrons in a certain instructive configuration is the manifestation and indicates continuous action. –
– The purpose of intelligence is to “think”. Thinking is an action and as we just saw, activity requires time. As universal intelligence creates instructive information to maintain matter in existence, timing is paramount to the expression force by matter. –
– Having said this, WHEN, HOW and WHERE do we observe timing as the universal cycle of existence and/or life are carried on?
Steve, are you equating ui with God? If ui is God then it is perfect and timeless. If ui is a creation then metaphysical or physical, it requires or begins the marking of time. Why does something that is perfect have to be timeless? We could not have gravity, a principle or law without the creation of matter. I MHO, you have a correct conclusion based upon a false premise. That’s hard to do!
As far as I know, within our philosophy, UI has no beginning or end, therefore philosophically it is timeless. If UI is law or an accumulation of laws then as far as human comprehension it is timeless. If UI is an attribute of god, as you say, then again it is timeless. If UI is a creation then you must state a creation of what, IMHO you have exceeded the philosophical limits
Joseph,
We know that universal intelligence is not God and is not timeless. To know that the authority of chiropractic is our major premise which begins with: A universal intelligence is in all matter… Therefore with the creation of matter came along the law of organization to maintain matter in existence. Universal intelligence is intrinsic to ALL matter and is 100% perfect whose function is to create instructive information to give matter all of its properties and activities to maintain matter in existence. There can be interference with the TRANSMISSION of universal forces (pri.12) which cause the transmission of forces to be out of timing. –
– Applied to the interference with transmission of innate forces (pri.29), VS furthers the limitation of the transmitting matter, thereby interfering with the FLOW of the mental impulse with intelligent direction (perfect timing) which is constructive as regards to structural matter. This further limitation of the transmitting matter changes the code of the instructive information and the mental impulse is reduced to a nerve impulse without intelligent direction (imperfect timing) which is deconstructive as regards to structural matter. –
– PS: We’ve got to help Steve out of the worm hole everybody. Perhaps a good way to start is to remind all us that the function of matter is to express instructive information in the form of motion in timing OR out of timing. 😉
What happens to matter when UF transmissions are interfered with? Does it cease to exist? If UI/UF are destructive toward structural matter, and disrupted how is that expressed?
Steve,
HOW does universal intelligence MAINTAIN matter in existence if the forces that universal intelligence creates are only destructive?
Sorry Claude 7/30/13, 2:15 am has no reply button.
Is there a difference between matter and structural matter? Can I assume structural matter is matter organized by II and so it is different from just basic matter? That would explain the contradictory effects of UFs.
There are no principles that dicuss the creation of matter, only it’s proerties and maintenance. Nor do any principles dicuss the creation of UI, only its purpose. UI creates force not matter. If force is for uniting intelligence and matter, logic would suggest indeed one did not create the other. I would agree time as a universal law has existed as long as UI and therefore matter itself. None of the above confirms or denies intelligence and matter as being timeless. Is it not our limited Educated Intelligence (a product of Innate organized matter) that denies the concept of timelessness?
SNSC
If we consider Intelligence to be thoughtful then according to the cycle of life, thinking is preceded by awareness. (P.17) Which means time is part of all Universal activity. However if we consider Intelligence to be knowledge then time comes with creation of force. What’s more, if we consider the expression of Intelligence to be force then time begins with the movement of matter.
OK now I’m lost in the wormhole.
Steve,
Universal intelligence CREATES instructive information (which have the ability to be deconstructive and/or constructive) giving to matter all its properties and actions in order to maintain ALL matter in existence. That is called the law of organization or the law of existence. That is the major premise of chiropractic (pri.1). –
– Innate intelligence ADAPTS universal instructive information and universal matter by re-coding them with innate instructive information in order to maintain coordination of living matter. That is called the law of active organization or the law of life. That is the principle of coordination (pri.32). –
– There are no contradictory effects of universal forces (instructive information which have the ability to be both deconstructive and/or constructive) in order to maintain matter in existence. There are two types of universal forces: 1) external universal forces acting ON matter breaking it down to its simplest components, the transmission of which can be interfered with (shade interfering with sun rays, roof interfering with rain, led interfering with x-rays, etc..) and 2) internal universal forces acting IN matter maintaining it in existence, the transmission of which can be interfered with (nuclear reaction, nuclear fission, nuclear fusion, etc…) Both external universal forces and internal universal forces are instructive information and both can have interference with their TRANSMISSION due to the limitation of the matter that they maintain in existence. –
– You also asked: Is there a difference between matter and structural matter? Can I assume structural matter is matter organized by II and so it is different from just basic matter? –
– Well. Steve, structural matter is definitely “living matter” in principle #26 since there are NO innate forces within inorganic matter. Universal forces (instructive information) are deconstructive and innate forces (re-coded instructive information) are constructive in order to maintain ORGANIC matter in active organization.
… in other words, TIMING of both universal intelligence and innate intelligence {which are 100% (perfection) and their instructive information which are 100% (perfection)} are ALWAYS perfect. It is the limitation of the matter which both universal intelligence and innate intelligence organize that interferes with “perfect timing” thus revealing the limitation of time intrinsic to ALL matter that is maintained in both, organic and inorganic, EXISTENCE.
Claude, could you give me an example of how “limitation(s) of matter”…”interferes with “perfect timing” thus revealing the limitation of time intrinsic to ALL matter that is maintained in both, organic (sic) and inorganic, EXISTENCE.”?
Subluxation
Steve, was the above reply in response to my request “Submitted on 2013/07/30 at 1:02 pm”? If so, perhaps my request was not clear. I was asking for an example of how the timing of the forces of universal intelligence are interfered with. Your answer “subluxation”, is of course correct, but only relates to innate forces.
Joseph,
Absolutely! It’s NOT splitting philosophical hairs… it’s clarifying the philosophy. Living matter is the term to use. I am taking note of it! Thank you! Thank God you are “retired” otherwise we might have missed it. 😉
Joseph,
I did give examples of the timing of the forces of universal intelligence being interfered with in my post of 7/30/2013 4:46am : – There are no contradictory effects of universal forces (instructive information which have the ability to be both deconstructive and/or constructive) in order to maintain matter in existence. There are two types of universal forces: 1) external universal forces acting ON matter breaking it down to its simplest components, the transmission of which can be interfered with (shade interfering with sun rays, roof interfering with rain, led interfering with x-rays, etc..) and 2) internal universal forces acting IN matter maintaining it in existence, the transmission of which can be interfered with (nuclear reaction, nuclear fission, nuclear fusion, etc…) Both external universal forces and internal universal forces are instructive information and both can have interference with their TRANSMISSION due to the limitation of the matter that they maintain in existence. –
… in other words, the interference with universal forces disrupt perfect timing and is due to the transmitting limitation of matter, thus revealing that there is no process that does not require time.
Claude, if uf maintain matter in existence how can they be interfered with and not cause matter to cease to exist?
Splitting the atom causes the atom to no longer exist, correct? Man it takes alot to interfere with UFs
When B.J. uses the term “organic”, he is referring to living as opposed to non-living matter. But science considers any matter that has a C-H-O bond as organic, even non-living matter. Do we need to stop using the term organic to denote living matter? Perhaps I am splitting hairs but isn’t our chiropractic philosophy about more than a material(C-H-O) “bond”, that separates living from non-living? Just a thought. (wow, even though “retired”, you would think I’d have something better to do with my time than split “philosophical hairs”)
The Principles state clearly that UI is destructive and II is constructive. This going both ways is obviously an advanced interpretation of them. It does make sense though. That then answers my original question. Timing is an aspect of Intelligence and Force as well as matter. Time transcends the metaphysical/physical division.
Joseph and Steve,
When you split an atom it ceases to exist as the smallest particle of matter and is transformed into extreme heat energy… thereby NOT ceasing to exist as E=MC2 due to the law of conservation of energy and continue to be maintained in existence. How about that for our limited educated intelligence to comprehend. Even though it is difficult to wrap our minds around this AMAZING phenomena, if you calculate the formula for E=mc2 you arrived at a number within the atom and when the split occur, the atom does not exist as smallest particle of matter any longer… yet its energy exist and if you were to do the calculation after the split, you arrive at the EXACT same number. That’s called the law of organization. Let it be said that the major premise of chiropractic is stably and is standing on its own veracity and power. Humbling isn’t it?
Very humbling indeed Claude, but you still did not answer my request. In fact now you have made the request even more difficult to answer because splitting the atom changes the matter into energy (E=MC2) and that means that the matter/energy is not interfered with but merely changed in character, exactly what happens to a universal force that is changed to an innate force and creates an adjustment.
Joseph,
The same thing happens when a universal force that is adapted into an innate force. The universal instructive information (educated or not) was not available before its introduction into the living body and is merely re-coded (adapted) by innate intelligence for the purpose of producing a vertebral adjustment for the coordination of all the parts of the body. In other words, the universal force is adapted into an innate force by being vested with a new character producing the vertebral adjustment for coordinated action of all the parts of the body. The process that occurs when the adjustment is performed by the innate intelligence of the body is the decrease in limitation of the transmitting matter whereby the impulse is vested with intelligent direction in timing and is called the mental impulse.
Maybe I am really lost here or trying to oversimplify, but couldn’t an “interference” as we are discussing here, be the juncture at which a force (UF of IF) is altered from it original intended design/state. For example, a flowing river is full of UF, but a dam built in the way inteferes with it. A raw lightening bolt acts and functions in a characteristic way toward the ground, but a lightning bolt redirected to a kite string and a key will behave with another set of characteristics and functions because of “interference”.
But because of conservation of matter and energy within the universe, there is no loss or gain, it simply is all that it is.
Just like the water on the planet, there is only what there is. No more, no less. Its forms (water, ice, steam) and locations (lakes, river, atmosphere, within plants and animals, etc.) change as needed to remain part of the UI/UF/UM/II/IF/IM balance, but that is it.
If you split an atom, you get “stuff” (energy) that no longer resembles an atom, but will add up to the atom “was” plus the intelligence and force necessary to maintain the atom.
When we interfere with UF by splitting the atom, the atom no longer exists. Yes, it is turned into energy but that energy is expressed and dissipates, then it no longer exists. The matter is gone, the energy is gone. The UF or instructive information that bound the elements of the atom is disrupted and the protons, neutrons and electrons are released as energy when the atom deconstructs. Thereafter that energy is no longer available for use by the matter that once contained it. Interfere with UI and matter ceases to exist.
II adapts UF for use in living matter by converting it to IF. There is no loss of force but there is a reconfiguration.The instructive information takes on a new character but still remains a Force that connects Intelligence and Matter. This adaptive recoding when interfered with by subluxation reverts back to the “raw” unadapted state of UF.
Interfere with Innate Force and you get Universal Force, interfere with Universal Force and you end up with nothing.
Does this make logical sense?
Steve, Do you have some scientific references for that. It makes total “logical sense” and is actually the point I was so inadequately getting to, that if you
“Interfere with Innate Force and you get Universal Force, interfere with Universal Force and you end up with nothing.” How would you reconcile Prin. #12 with this idea. Thanks for your input which may prove to be a valuable contribution to our chiropractic philosophy.
Joseph and Steve,
Remember that even though the atom is split and is recoded into heat energy, that heat energy is still maintained in existence through instructive information created by universal intelligence. Whether we like it or not, that’s the law of organization maintaining the universe in existence which includes the universal law of conservation of energy. The number of the equation is the same after the recoding and before the recoding of instructive information. It’s like a safety feature to prevent non-existence.
– Don’t you think that to “end up with nothing” would mean the non-existence of universal forces rather than interfering with universal forces? Otherwise, you just threw away principle #8,#10 and 13. –
– I wonder if our chiropractic ancestors knew about E=mc2 and the possibility of splitting an atom into a re-coded form (heat energy) which is could be re-coded by the perfection of universal intelligence back into an atom again…
… like Michael said: “it simply is all that it is”… whether with the theory of a “closed” universe or with the theory of parallel universes.
And that’s what I was getting at. It is a “closed” system. If not, and there is truly a way for stuff to “cease to exist” (and not just as measurable or recognizable, but TOTALLY), then whay we know/understand up to this point would be wrong. And I think if that were true, it would have revealed itself by now.
Not only that, our chiropractic philosophy would no longer hold true, let alone disregard certain principles within it.
Michael,
As I understand (?) the hypothesis of parallel multiverses, is that they would exchange instructive information. E=MC2 and principles #14 and #15 would make that theory work as ONE huge regenerative nanoastrometathon. We are at the very edge of space time continuum and my educated intelligence stops here. For me to go further, I would be moving beyond the major premise. Therefore, it is me WHO choose to honor this blog and WHO choose to frequent it.
This is getting into the realm of “Through the Wormhole with Morgan Frean” and far beyond my educated intelligence base. I find the stuff fascinating, but I am just a neonate in my level of understanding.
OK, Principle #12 says the transmission of UFs can be interfered with, it does not say UI can be eliminated. On further investigation, splitting the atom does not totally eliminate all mass. It reduces (deconstructs) the mass into 2-3 sub particles. Still, the matter is not maintained as before and it’s properties have changed due to interference with UFs. The affected matter no longer exists as it once did.
WIKI,- [ Nuclear fissions in fissile fuels are the result of the nuclear excitation energy produced when a fissile nucleus captures a neutron. This energy, resulting from the neutron capture, is a result of the attractive nuclear force acting between the neutron and nucleus. It is enough to deform the nucleus into a double-lobed “drop,” to the point that nuclear fragments exceed the distances at which the nuclear force can hold two groups of charged nucleons together, and when this happens, the two fragments complete their separation and then are driven further apart by their mutually repulsive charges, in a process which becomes irreversible with greater and greater distance. ]
In other words the nuclear force (UF) is interfered with by the addition of an extra neutron, resulting in the transformation of one type of matter into another different type of matter.
Principle #3 is about union of intelligence and matter giving rise to existence. –
– Principle #10 is about that which is required to unite intelligence and matter, namely instructive information. –
– Creating force is an activity of intelligence and the function of intelligence. Uniting is an activity of instructive information created by universal intelligence to maintain ALL matter in existence and adapted by innate intelligence to maintain LIVING matter in active organization… which means to provide coordination of actions of all the parts of LIVING matter. Therefore, together without condemnation, we could 😉 conclude that it is instructive information created by intelligence uniting intelligence and matter that gives to matter all its properties and actions, thus maintaining it in existence, AND also gives rise to time… that ONLY beyond the major premise is there timelessness. –
– Indeed, through rational logic, together without condemnation, our inquiry leads us to the conclusion that Joseph’s opening post is true: “The timing of the innate intelligence of the body is always perfect. The only thing that prevents its perfect execution are limitations of the matter carrying the message”. 🙂
Yes Claude Ol’ boy,
It seems we, if Don, Michael and Joe agree, have reached a confirming conclusion to this thread. Time, as an aspect of matter, is a Universal Law. In order for time to be bennificial for living matter, it must be adapted by Innate Intelligence. Time can therefore be unadapted due to the Limits Of Matter. . IOW……TIME MATTERS
My observation is that time is the succession of moments. Existence is the moment. Process and action, as expressed thru matter, by uf, created by ui happens illusively over time, a succession of moments. Timing is the syncing of moments together, perfectly.
This is logical to me.
Actions and motions happen over time.
We experience in general, events, over time.
We are existing in time which is in the moment.
Time represents the ever changing moment.
Timelessness is the experience of the moment.
It is perceptually and logically comprehended by me.
P6. The Principle of Time – There is no process that does not require time.
More accurately should read, The Principle of Time – There is no process the does require a succession of moments, we sometimes refer to as The Illusion of.the EXISTENCE of Time
Remember: matter appears solid but in existence, in reality is ~99.(whatever) space.
And more importantly
I love COTB 😉
I rescind my Exploration of Time Post. Not because it IS inaccurate. Actually I thought of another way of defining or explaining TIME, Be that as it may, I don’t access let’s say the Clarification, as improving of the understanding of the 33 principles. Matter and reference to it’s ACTIONS exists within the Inductive Major Premise.
That is enough to continue with the 32 additional principles.
With regards to ADIO, having an ADIO viewpoint, utilizing or Acting within
Claude’s WHO and CHOOSE and BE and NOW as his I’ll call ‘Premise of Action’ it might serve to understand where Time and the Moment in ones experience of change, Truly Exists. But that IS another subject and might not fall under the purview of COTB
As per principle #1, EVERYTHING in the universe is the result of universal intelligence which is perfect. Therefore, as we use rational logic and deductive reasoning, we conclude that both tangible and intangible components of the triune are perfect (100%) and that the universe is complete (pri.5). This means that ALL e/matter, all forces and all intelligence are CAUSED by universal intelligence. They are, therefore, ALL perfect for their PURPOSE 100% of the time. –
– WHERE is the ONLY possible CAUSE of imperfection takes place? If one looks up the definition of principles, according to Webster’s, a principle is ” a basic truth”. Therefore, the ONLY imperfect ACTION has got to be something that can influence perfection in an imperfect way. WHY would that be? Obviously, ALL manifestation of universal intelligence are necessarily perfect. So, even imperfections must be perfect for their PURPOSE! Can educated apprehends that? –
– That is the reason of WHO i choose to BE vis-à-vis universal intelligence creating instructive information, which have no solicitude and are deconstructive toward STRUCTURAL e/matter (pri.26). There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that is imperfect about that. It is a part of the universal cycle of existence that our educated intelligence is desirous to understand. WHEN it me WHO chooses NOT to go there, it is me WHO accepts the AUTHORITY of the 33 principles of chiropractic basic’s science. That is plenty for me to practice the chiropractic objective. –
– In other words, as the distance between the sun and the earth must be maintained at 92,860,000 miles (+ or – 25,000 miles) while the earth orbits around the sun at 66,000 miles/hr traveling some 250,000,000 miles in 365 days and spins at 1,000 miles/hr for quite a long TIME now, ALWAYS maintaining that 92,860,000 mile-distance, it is educated intelligence WHO has to choose to accept, or NOT to accept, the law of organization as being the start point of chiropractic and the CAUSE within principle #1. –
– As we recognize the facts and rational logic presented, we need to show evidence of the major premise in a logical sequence. Those WHO choose to accept principle #1, do so simply based on the validity of its logic. It is therefore reasonable for chiropractic to APPROPRIATE principle #1 as the start point of chiropractic. –
– You are correct, since time is part of the major premise, this subject does NOT fall under the purview of COTB.
– It is ALWAYS about the WHO is it not? –
– Carry on. ADIO. 😉