The time is near when traditional (those who want to get sick people well) chiropractors must decide whether they are free or slaves. The CCE offers the security of slavery just as the control of England offered the security of the most powerful nation on earth (at the time) yet the Colonies still desired freedom.
Joseph,
In your opinion, what is the percentage of chiropractors WHO choose to get sick people well… know the chiropractic objective as concluded from the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science, and that it is not therapeutic?
Three different questions Claude.
1. Choose to get sick people well.
2. Know the chiropractic objective by the 33 principles
3. Know that it is not therapeutic.
Could you clarify those a little more?
I want your opinion as to the percentage of traditional straights who know the chiropractic objective and that it comes from the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science.
0% !!!!!
So, as long as traditional straights are getting sick people well, they are therapeutic. And as long as they are therapeutic they are slave to the CCE, no questions about it! Now, if they don’t know the chiropractic objective and that it is concluded from the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science, they don’t have a choice… do they?
They have a choice now that there is such a thing as OSC.
Sometimes the Chiropractor is practicing OCtic but the PM by thinking of themselves as a patient, (symptomatic, etc.) plus thru their own viewpoint and understanding is receiving a therapeutic care (TS or Mix). If the OC flinches (Doc, my back feels better or worse! (doc – Great! or Let’s take a closer look, etc.), murky waters have just been entered. Joe you said 0%, that would be for TCors not Mixers. The scenario (above) I just described is very common. It’s called people pleasing, insecurity, incongruence, pragmatism, many words to describe the predilection for this Mixing phenomenon.
Joseph,
What’s the percentage of the TSCs who know about OC?
My guess: 100% know or have heard it. Less than 10% practice it or apply it to their practice.
Joe,
If 100% “know or have heard it” why do only “10% practice it or apply it to their practice” ?
90% of TSCors don’t choose to apply it to their practice. You must know some/many/a few…ask them!
Joe,
You suggested that since I must know a number of “them” (what you call TSCrs) that I ask them the question of why only 10% of them practice OSC. (BTW I doubt that even 1% truly practice OSC
,not that there is anything wrong with OSC. It is one method of real Chiropractic in my mind.
Because I always practiced straight Chiropractic, I really did not know many other chiropractors that I would waste time talking to. There was nothing to discuss with them, after they had been destroyed by the “chiropractic ” nonsense education they had been “taught”. Some of them could be re-taught, and about ½ of those would switch to my non-force, intensive care methods for the rest of their professional life.
Those who worked for me had to practice what I taught them, and those who came to my workshops came to learn what I was doing, so the philosophy of OSC was never brought up.
I always explained that I only practiced what you used to call “Straight”. And I would explain how to actually correct spines and use that successfully. Like I.N.Toftness, I used RST, (Rehe Soft Techniques) in conjunction with everything, (though it worked better when it wasn’t interfered with by medicines or therapies, but patients sometimes had M.Ds. or P.Ts.also working on them), for everything.
Dr. Rehe, what are the other “method(s) of real Chiropractic” in your mind? Just curious.
Joe, you asked,”Dr. Rehe, what are the other “method(s) of real Chiropractic” in your mind? Just curious.”
It is all about NEUROTHLIPSIS…“neurothlipsis …Pressure upon or irritation of a nerve.” That is the definition in my 24th edition of Dorland,s Medical Dictionary. (Some of the newer dictionaries leave out the words.. “irritation of a”.)
“Real Chiropractic ” in my mind involves …The ability to reduce neurothlipsis as well as humanly possible, throughout the patient’s body, to allow the nerve system to work at it’s best level at that moment in time….To do that the doctor must know…..
1…How to locate areas of neurothlipsis..
A-This requires and understanding that neurothlipsis always creates aberrant function of the living body.
a…Aberrant function with intelligent testing allows the doctor to determine where the neurothlipsis is being produced, how to correct the neurothlipsis and allows you to know when you have corrected it.
Most chiropractors try to determine vertebral subluxations as the only source of neurothlipsis, and try to identify where and in what form they are by the very difficult, inaccurate, and old fashioned methods such as palpation, thermographic readings, etc. These methods often give wrong information resulting in poor nerve interference correction..
The doctor must also understand that correction of neurothlipsis is the ONLY purpose of chiropractic. Correcting neurothlipsis will usually also reduce the patient’s symptoms, however that is not the doctors goal and in fact he can not and SHOULD NOT ever use that as his goal, or allow the patient to assume that it is the doctors goal. This requires educating the patient by various means and demonstrations.
Therefore the doctor should never allow a patient to “push “ him into using any symptom reduction procedures. The doctor needs to understand that the patient has been taught the medical goals compared to the Chiropractors goals, and that anything that causes neurothlipsis should be avoided at all costs. NO Chiropractor should ever allow the patient to think that in stating the prior sentence, he means that the patient should not take, medication or not do anything that another licensed therapist suggests. The Chiropractor must state that while he has earned the title “Doctor of Chiropractic ” that means only that he is trained well enough that he can teach Chiropractic, and that he is not an expert in any other field and therefore the patient should never misinterpret anything the doctor might appear to say regarding any other health care field.
Long winded, but I feel necessary. There is so much more to say, but not here or at this time.
Thank you, Dr. Straus for asking me to explain.
Best to you and yours,
Art
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Dr. Rehe,
You stated: “Real Chiropractic” in my mind involves… The ability to reduce neurothlipsis… throughout the patient’s body. –
– Could you please tell us, according to your experience, WHERE are these neurothlipsis located “throughout the body”, since it is the first criteria that you list?
The most easily and most commonly found instances of neurothlipsis will, of course be found along the spine, most in the form of vertebral subluxation.
The next most common evidence of neurothlipsis will be in the abdomen, and anterior thoracic areas, usually caused by muscle contractions and distortions, including costal distortions. Correction of the major one of these anterior of the body points will often result in spontaneous correction of all others, including the spinal subluxations, found that day. Be careful if you are working with ribs, they can be very tender,
The scull is also often found with evidence of neurothlipsis.
I can say this and you might ask how I can prove it. Understand that I am not the first one to put together methods of identifying neurothlipsis caused in other areas of the body than the spine.
I.N.Toftness, D.C. developed ways of identifying and correcting neurothlipsis. He identified the area of neurothlipsis with his Radiation Detector, and corrected the problem by a careful adjustment search and corrected the problem with a precise adjustment with a force of only 2 oz.. He had wonderful results in spinal correction and health restoration, but ran afoul of the government who did not want anyone working with the 69.3 Gig radiation field. The govt, harrassed the Toftness field doctors, so he sued the Govt. in the longest law suit ever in Wisconsin , (9 years) and won. Then the local govt.s started harrassing his doctors in the field, and finally got laws passed making it illegal to transport a T.R.D. across state lines. That in effect made the old man and his son say, “ to H with it”.
W.C. Lee,D.C. and Arlan Fuhr,D.C. work with one of the identification techniques of neurothlipsis, (aberrant muscle function,) as indicators for the adjustment procedures they teach. Remember that aberrant function of the nerves results in aberrant body function. Irritate an area of neurothlipsis and use any thing easy to observe to find the cause. Ergo, Activator’s short leg indicator is born. I’m sure they never put the whole thing together, in fact when I talked to Dr. Lee, who lived 60 miles from me, he was astounded to realize what they had missed by concentrating only on the spine, never realizing the further ramifications. Interestingly when he started developing Activator Methods years before he had discovered the scull neurothlipis creation and was correcting it at the scull, to level the legs, but later dropped that procedure, because they were still thinking orthopedically rather that neurally. (Just like most chiropractors.)
You might like to try an experiment. Tomorrow, while your patients are standing before you, have each one stretch one arm out in front of them and ask them to hold the arm locked into position. Test as a manual muscle test. Gently press downward on their wrist, gradually increasing your downward pressure to determine if their strength gives way, or not. Don’t push too hard, and be gentle and gradual. Note if the muscle gives way easily. If they test strong… then you place your hand on their sternum over the area of the heart, and with your other hand , gently press downward on their wrist, again gradually increasing your downward pressure to determine if their strength gives way now or not. Don’t push too hard, and be gentle and gradual.
If there is neurothlipsis that could affect their heart area they will suddenly become weak. If they seem alarmed, tell them that this is just a test for neurothlipsis, and not to worry that there is something wrong with their heart. Now after your usual adjustment run the test again and see if the neurothlipsis is still there. Simple , huh?
O, BTW, if there is radiation over the heart, be extra careful in thrusting in the T1, T2 area. You could cause what you don’t want to cause. Hopefully not while they are in your office.
I’ve rambled and written far longer than I should. Just know that instead of trying to identify only vertebral subluxations, which are said to cause neurothlipsis, Identify neurothlipsis and use that to find the key subluxation(s). And learn to correct the local (anterior body) areas.
Again I want to thank Dr. Straus for allowing me to ramble here. Hope it is interesting.
Art
Art,
Thank you for your time to answer my question. Again, your earlier text opened with: “Real Chiropractic” in my mind… Art, this implies that you speak from your own authority. While it is your right to do so, just know that has it very own AUTHORITY. The AUTHORITY of chiropractic is the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science which conclude into the chiropractic objective which is to locate, analyze, and facilitate the correction of vertebral subluxations for a full expression of the innate FORCES of the innate intelligence of the body. PERIOD. –
– Anyone WHO choose to really study the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science will soon SEE and UNDERSTAND that they truly lead to the chiropractic objective. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing else. –
– Once again thank you for allowing us to know what you teach and what you do. –
Claude, on re-reading your question and my answer to you above I feel that I may have missed what you were really asking. Therefore let me ask the following…Thank you for your time to answer my question. Again, your earlier text opened with: “Real Chiropractic” in my mind… Art, this implies that you speak from your own authority. While it is your right to do so, just know that has it very own AUTHORITY. The AUTHORITY of chiropractic is the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science which conclude into the chiropractic objective which is to locate, analyze, and facilitate the correction of vertebral subluxations for a full expression of the innate FORCES of the innate intelligence of the body. PERIOD. –
1. – Anyone WHO choose to really study the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science will soon SEE and UNDERSTAND that they truly lead to the chiropractic objective. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing else. –
– Once again thank you for allowing us to know what you teach and what you do. –
Claude…
Could you clarify your meanings here? I am not familiar with your meaning when you speak of my Authority. And or the Authority of the 33 PRINCIPLES OF CHIROPRACTIC’S basic science. Could you re-phrase that, please.
To me Chiropractic has always seemed so very easy to understand that I could never see why these “principles” should be worshiped as you folks appear to do. I don’t see what quoting Stevenson does that couldn’t be done so much easier and simpler.
I believe I understand the 33 principles, but maybe I’m missing something.
Thanks,
Art
Art,
1. Thank you for your time to answer my question. Again, your earlier text opened with: “Real Chiropractic” in my mind… Art, this implies that you speak from your own authority. While it is your right to do so, just know that has it very own AUTHORITY. The AUTHORITY of chiropractic is the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science which conclude into the chiropractic objective which is to locate, analyze, and facilitate the correction of vertebral subluxations for a full expression of the innate FORCES of the innate intelligence of the body. PERIOD. –
– Anyone WHO choose to really study the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science will soon SEE and UNDERSTAND that they truly lead to the chiropractic objective. Nothing more, nothing less, nothing else. –
– Once again thank you for allowing us to know what you teach and what you do. –
Joe,
Lest we lose the basics in all the detail, allow me to say this, please. You asked “Could you please tell us, according to your experience, WHERE are these neurothlipsis located “throughout the body”, since it is the first criteria that you list?”
I believe you will agree that the purpose of Chiropractic is to reduce nerve interference. If an Atlas subluxation is causing nerve interference “throughout the body” would not you correct it? Whether produced by vertebrae that are subluxated, or produced by other parts of the anatomy . is immaterial. As D.D. said, he was not too proud to adjust a patient’s feet, if they were causing nerve interference. The word “neurothlipsis” means nerve interference. In my last 2 posts I have tried to explain that you can use the bodies reactions to mild provocation to demonstrate nerve interference/neurothlipsis, and where and how to correct that interference most effectively, and finally know that you have done it..
There is no conflict that I can see with your 33 principles. The two subjects are apples and oranges, both dealing with fruit, but different subjects.
Again thanks for the question.
Art
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Dr. Rehe, you said I believe you will agree that the purpose of Chiropractic is to reduce nerve interference. If an Atlas subluxation is causing nerve interference “throughout the body” would not you correct it? Whether produced by vertebrae that are subluxated, or produced by other parts of the anatomy . is immaterial.” No that is the material issue. If I find a vertebra in the foot causing nerve interference, I would adjust it. I admit, I have not examined any feet in my practice… or any other parts of a person’s anatomy beside the spine.
Dr. Rehe, you gave me the definition of “neurothlipsis …Pressure upon or irritation of a nerve.” and said, “That is the definition in my 24th edition of Dorland,s Medical Dictionary.” That is not the definition of VS, the chiropractic objective. A bullet wound may cause extensive nerve irritation and probably does, but its removal is not chiropractic. There are many other causes of neurothlipsis “Pressure upon or irritation of a nerve.” . All but the VS fall under the role/objective/ practice of medicine. But thank you for clearing up your professional/chiropractic objective. If a person walked into your chiropractic office with a bullet wound or any other …
“Pressure upon or irritation of a nerve,” causing neurothlipsis, what would you do (beside LACVS),that did not involve a medical diagnosis and or procedure?
Why Joe, I would do Real Chiropractic.
This is the crux of the matter. Your definiftion of Chiropractic seems to have nothing to do with correcting anything but Vertebral subluxation.
That is fine, but WHY are you trying to correct subluxations? I hope, that it is to correct neurothlipsis/nerve interference. (I always add, “to the best possible level that goal can be accomplished”.) I can not see any other reason that a vertebral subluxation would be corrected. If I am wrong please enlighten me.
You ask what I would do if a patient came into my office with a bullet wound. While I have never had that happen, if he had not yet been seen by a medical professional, I’d give basic first aid while my CA or someone called an ambulance. Then if the ambulance hadn’t yet arrived, or if he had already been medically treated for the wound, I would examine him, searching for evidence of neurothlipsis/nerve interference. And I would adjust/correct what I could identify, until I could find nothing further and would have the patient, rest in my waiting room and I’d check and adjust him to clear any evidence of neurothlipsis/nerve interference I would find at that time. And I would continue that procedure until nothing more could be done for him that day, setting him an appointment for tomorrow, and assuring him that if he felt it necessary, to call me even if in the middle of the night.
(It is interesting that I had a very similar, though not gunshot wound that I handled about 3 years ago.)
My Grand son received a blow to the right eye, causing a depression fracture of the outer orbit. I received a call from my daughter, explaining that he had already been treated at the local hospital and asking me to come to her house to adjust her son. She was trained by me to adjust but, preferred that I look at him. When I was at his house, there was a young friend of his present. Since I needed a surrogate to allow me to do a neurothlipsis/nerve interference (from now on I will call this N/NI) test on the damaged orbit I enlisted his help. The young man had never been to a chiropractor and had no idea of what I was going to do. First I had the young man stand and I tested his right infraspinatus, which tested strong. Then I had the young man place his left hand on the bandage over the depressed fracture to determine if there was N/NI. On retesting his rt. infraspinatus, it demonstrated 80% weakness compared with the original test.(Note that I had the young man face east as he had been doing on the original test, so that the findings would not be influenced by wrong positioning.).Then to see how strong a nerve interference existed I had the young man gradually back away from my grandson, while holding up his left hand toward my grandsons eye. He continued to test weak until at a little over 6 feet away from my grandson, the young man’s infraspinatus regained full strength. That indicated a very severe N/NI.
I now gave my grandson prone, Subluxation indicator tests involving the reactive short leg test, which was very pronounced, left leg actively shortened, a thigh tension test,(bending both legs simultaneously toward the buttocks) the left leg bent 4 inches further than the right, had him raise his head, turning it as far to the right as possible and resting it on the headrest which demonstrated pain at upper, mid and lower cervical areas, I did not have him turn his head left because of the damaged eye which would have had to rest on the head rest.There was paraspinal muscle tenderness in several places, but since I do not have his file in front of me I can not remember which vertebrae were involved.
I gave a full spine Fundamental adjustment without the Myotonic (cervical) procedure, lasting 40 seconds, having him hold his head turned right so he could rest his head on the headrest.. I quickly tested my grandson using reactive short leg, thigh tension, cervical tension and spinal tenderness. All of which were now clear. Upon raising him up, and having the surrogate retested, I found his infraspinatus stayed strong even when touching the bandage over the eye and found no further adjustment needed. That ended that visit.
By using neurologically activated indicators, listed above, I was able to find the problems, adjust the spine and prove that the adjustment had reduced the N/NI, throughout his body. That is what I call REAL CHIROPRACTIC.
Dr. Rehe, apparently from your comments N/N is not the same as VS causing mental impulse interference. Could you explain the difference? Second, if ii is limited by Limitations of matter, how could a surrogate’s ii tell you what is going on another person’s body? Am I able to understand this without taking your course?
Joe,
Dr. Rehe, apparently from your comments N/N is not the same as VS causing mental impulse interference. Could you explain the difference? Second, if ii is limited by Limitations of matter, how could a surrogate’s ii tell you what is going on another person’s body? Am I able to understand this without taking your course?
Neurothlipsis , or nerve interference is a neurological entity.
Vertebral subluxations are orthopedic entities, possibly the most common cause, outside of the brain itself, that create neurothlipsis/nerve interference.
As I said they are apples and oranges. Associated but different entities.
There are other things beyond subluxations that can and do cause N/NI. But I won’t go into those at this time.
Let’s stick to trying to answer your questions.
N/NI will cause electrical changes in the living body. Among these changes are radiation of 69.3 Gigahertz. This was the radiation that I.N.Toftness discovered and was working with. This radiation is HARMFUL. When Toftness won his lawsuit against the FDA he did it by proving that his instruments did detect a radiation, by having outside labs develop hundreds of experiments in which they irradiated Brine Shrimp eggs, wheat seeds, etc. by placing them over areas on peoples bodies where this radiation was found, for varying periods of time from 10 minutes to 2 hours and then observing these test subjects compared to non radiated ones. They showed that in each case there was damage to the irradiated . For example in the brine shrimp eggs, there was consistantly less hatch, Usually around 25% or so less, and of the hatchliings a significant number were found to have mutations, such as no tails, etc.
This radiation will emanate from the areas of N/NI and are detectable with certain instruments. Somewhat similar but different to the instruments used by electrical Line-men who will identify radiation at points of breaks in electric lines.
These radiations can also be detected by living bodies.
If you are skilled in manual muscle testing, you can use a cooperating human being to act as surrogate simply by having him or her touch the areas you suspect might be evidencing N/NI. By pretesting a strong muscle you can quickly identify the areas of radiation by the fact that the surrogate’s muscle will immediately become weak And you can then have the surrogate back away from the area, and by continuing to test his muscle determine the strength of the radiation and the severity of the N/NI. When you have checked the patient in this way you know which N/NI is the most severe, (the Major radiation) and then locate the subluxation or “local” contact that will clear it. When you clear the Major area you will usually, though not always find that all other areas of radiation and all subluxations will also be clear.
No, you do not have to be trained in this by me. (Besides, I, at age 83 am long retired and don’t work in this except as a hobby and when I find someone who wishes to learn and has the ability to think original thoughts, which 92.2 % of the population can not do.)
You may recall that in a previous post I suggested testing your patients by having them place their hand over their heart while holding their other hand out in front of them where you could test it. That is how easy it is to identify N/NI. Or you could touch their sternum as you also test their arm. Most of your older patients will have N/NI affecting this area, so you should readily find some that will demonstrate the procedure. And you can adjust them as you normally do and by re-testing after the adjustment see if you have actually cleared the patient’s N/NI.
I emphasize that you must be trained and skilled in MMT. Isolate the muscle you wish to test, and test it carefully, don’t yank on it, don’t have a preconceived notion of what you think you’ll find. Sloppy work will not be useful.
Dr. Rehe,
You may be missing something and perhaps you should read the latest BLUE BOOK, “A New Look At Chiropractic’s Basic Science”. You might gain a greater understanding of the AUTHORITY of Chiropractic and it’s function. Thank you. Claude
Claude,
I would think that that is the only Blue Book of Joe’s that I don’t have.
Until I decide if I want to buy one, could you give me the answers to what I asked on my last post to you?
Thanks.
BTW, If there is any deserving young OSC Dr. out there who would like this fine collection that I do have, and since I have no one to leave them to, please call me at 707-295-9042 and maybe you’ll get my set of 14 books. Some are a little marked in the margins, but they are in good shape.
I would think that that is the only Blue Book of Joe’s that I don’t have.
Until I decide if I want to buy one, could you give me the answers to what I asked on my last post to you?
Thanks.
BTW, If there is any deserving young OSC Dr. out there who would like this fine collection that I do have, and since I have no one to leave them to, please call me at 707-295-9042 and maybe you’ll get my set of 14 books. Some are a little marked in the margins, but they are in good shape.
Art, read them once more and then give them away
Claude,
I still don’t understand what you mean by “Authority”. What do you mean by your use of the word?
As to your above ms., I would think that that is the only Blue Book of Joe’s that I don’t have.
Until I decide if I want to buy one, could you give me the answers to what I asked on my last post to you?
Thanks.
BTW, If there is any deserving young OSC Dr. out there who would like this fine collection that I do have, and since I have no one to leave them to, please call me at 707-295-9042 and maybe you’ll get my set of 14 books. Some are a little marked in the margins, but they are in good shape.
Art
Authority in chiropractic is that which you, as a chiropractor, falls back on if you wish to ensure that you are practicing the chiropractic objective which is to: locate, analyse, and facilitate the correction of vertebral subluxations for a full expression of the innate Forces of the innate intelligence of the body. Period.
That AUTHORITY in chiroractic is the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science.
The problem with chiropractic, at one time, after B.J’s death, was we had no authority in chiropractic. A few practice building gurus tied to fill that void because the profession was struggling for financial success in light of organized medicine’s attacks. We still have people who are stepping up as authorities and trying to tell us how to build a large practice. But we also have others who want to be authorities including:
1. CCE
2. National organizations
3. State Boards
4. Living and dead technique entrepreneurs.
5. Internet bloggers
6. BJ and DD
7. Everybody with a website.
As a result we have a profession not lacking a direction but one going in 50,00 directions with th
It seems to me that the 33 Principles is a good authority to follow for chiropractors. Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of DCs don’t understand the wisdom behind them (either consciously or unconsciously) and I’m not sure how to motivate others to embrace our wonderful philosophy.
Being a state board member (for 2 more years), I can attest that the “authority” wielded by politically appointed bureaucrats (of which I am one) is not always in the best interest of chiropractic. Too many straight, subluxation-based DCs would rather sit on the sidelines and watch as “forces” are attempting to change chiropractic into “chiropractic medicine”.
I recall in my first trimester at CCCKC when our spinal anatomy instructor informed us that when we entered the chiropractic profession that we also entered politics and you better have the cajones to fight for chiropractic.
“your earlier text opened with: “Real Chiropractic” in my mind… Art, this implies that you speak from your own authority. While it is your right to do so, just know that has it very own AUTHORITY. The AUTHORITY of chiropractic is the 33 principles of chiropractic’s etc.”
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Claude,
Who decided that the 33 principles would be considered the “Authority” of Chiropractic?
“The 33 principles” were originally written and now re-written and interpreted to have a subject to teach in a Chiropractic College. To take up some time and justify a tuition cost. They do not really have anything useful that will help you to give better service in the office, that I can see. The original Chiropractors who got results that few today are capable of never heard of or thought of or probably would have cared about the 33 principles. Not Even B.J.. This paper is not the Holy Writ.
I’m just interested in chiropractors today, being so good that all the Drug company/Hospital industry/ Government/ News Media Sabotaging will be overcome by enthusiastic patients so that I can proudly refer people to competent Chiropractors. Unfortunately I could not do that when I was in practice, with a very few exceptions, and can certainly not do it now.
When I read Joe’s books, I see time after time evidence of the relative incompetence of Chiropractic which Joe has to repeatedly explain away and as it has been practiced by the great majority of the field doctors since before I entered the profession. I can not express how shocked I was when I first went into Reggie’s office in Spring Valley and saw what they were doing. It was a slap dash mess. Hitting the high spots and calling that a scientific adjustment. And so was 95% of what I saw in other doctor’s offices throughout the country. Learn what is necessary to get superlative results. Prove through indicator testing at each adjustment that what you claim you do is really being done.
Just one small example that will open your eyes is to take any patient who is wearing glasses, Test him on an eye chart without his glasses before and then 10 minutes after an adjustment. If you are really clearing the patient’s nerve interference he will be amazed at how much better he can see after a real Chiropractic adjustment.
Darn it guys, stop talking and improve yourselves and do it. Or this profession is dead.
No Art, it implies that Claude speaks from an authority outside of himself! That is objective chiropractic. That is why he said, ” in my mind…” (my thinking), implying not authority but his (and OSC’s) approach.
Which of the 33 Principles do you disagree with?
Perhaps you should start you own website and call it I’m doing what is right in my own eyes and everything else is wrong chiropractic Judges 17:6 is not implying an endorsement but that “freedom without authority (no king in Israel…” is anarchy (the authority was supposed to be the Mosaic Law). Better yet you could call yourself THE CHIROPRACTIC ANARCHIST. Oh wait, the CCE has already surreptitiously assumed that title and medicine has assumed that role/objective.
Now Joe,
“No Art, it implies that Claude speaks from an authority outside of himself! That is objective chiropractic.
“Human beings never think for themselves, they find it too uncomfortable. For the most part, members of our species simply repeat what they are told- and become upset if they are exposed to any different view. The characteristic human trait is not awareness but conformity, and the characteristic result is religious warfare. Other animals fight for territory or food; but, uniquely in the animal kingdom, human beings fight for their ‘beliefs.’ The reason is that beliefs guide behavior, which has evolutionary importance among human beings. But at a time when our behavior may well lead us to extinction, I see no reason to assume we have any awareness at all. We are stubborn, self-destructive conformists. Any other view of our species is just a self-congratulatory delusion.”
– Michael Crichton, “The Lost World”
Mike, explains why most people need some outside authority to tell them how to run their lives. In the case we are speaking of here, it tells them how to think Chiropractically.
I just find that I don’t need that, which to many is anathema.
Realizing that the college I went to (CCCLA under Carl Cleveland Sr.) taught what was needed to pass the boards, and how to analyze and adjust subluxations for the purpose of reducing nerve interference so that the living body could function at the best level possible under the existing cirumstances. And why we should only adjust since anything else would tend to produce nerve interference, not reduce it.
. And that made sense. Those too dumb to understand were just too dumb to understand, and you can’t fix that, certainly not with by rote teaching. We were taught how to think Chiropractically but not by the rote method you folks appear to have used.
For example, while I have no argument with Stevenson’s writings, as an intellectual exercise using 1920s understanding of the world and being taught to the average IQ student. But if he were writing today, I would imagine that he would change a lot of what he wrote. Certainly he would make it easier to understand. And you wouldn’t have so much trouble trying to get Charley Backcracker, d.c. to understand.
And if the schools taught really good , simple, scientific, gentle effective Chiropractic techniques instead of the guarrantee of failure stuff they are teaching, we would have a Health Care profession second to none. And we wouldn’t be having this discussion. And I wouldn’t have to feel ashamed of the average Chiropractor in the field.
Art, I disagree with you and Crichton (I guess you are using him as an “outside authority”)> Why??? I imagine it is because he agrees with your thinking Everyone thinks. You cannot communicate without first having a thought. When that thought has been had by others, previously,and you disagree it is probably because that thought has agreed (rightly or wrongly) with some part of your world and life viewpoint. Ecclesiastes 1:9″…..there is nothing new under the sun.” That’s why we have copyright laws. Although Claude and I grew up in different countries, speak different languages, go to different churches ,went to different chiropractic schools and have different tastes. He likes French cooking, I prefer Italian. He rides a Cessna, I rode a Kawasaki. But we both agree on an ADIO world and life viewpoint. We got that viewpoint from various sources :BJ, Reggie, RWS and others. some even non-chiropractors. They are usually thoughts that support,agree with, reflect our WALV. Rarely do we find something that is transformational, causes a change in our thinking…but it is usually just a thought from another that we have never heard before but has been expressed. OSC is merely mostly BJ’s thinking (95%). But when BJ disagreed with our WALV we rejected his thinking (on rare occasions and sought/adopted the thinking of others. Those who criticize us for being “Reggie followers/disciples” While he was had gotten those thoughts from others, the vast majority came from BJ usually correct in his philosophy, apparently had a WALV that caused him to come to a different objective (getting sick people well)I would guess that you differ with BJ than do Claude and I together,especially in the area of technique, the one area that leaves the most room for differences/disagreement. But as a profession we should agree on one thing. We believe that one thing is our chiropractic objective.
Art, I disagree with you and Crichton (I guess you are using him as an “outside authority”)< Why???
Joe,
I guess you could use that description from your standpoint, but I just thought that his way of stating the position that most humans allow someone else to do their thinking, and then try to parrot what they think that person (“authority”) said, would be easier for the readers to understand without feeling as angry about it as if I stated the points he made. I know that the way I explain this would have a tendency to arouse ire, in those who would see themselves in the mirror of my discourse, even though I do not mean to cause that reaction. Just stating facts.
I would state his premise in this way…
Psychologists/ psychiatrists have studied I..Q. for the last hundred years and by the 1960s had established , among other things how a person’s I.Q. related to inventiveness.
Of all the animals on the planet, the demarcation line between a Human animal and nonhuman animal has always emerged as the inventiveness of the species. There are some animals that are somewhat inventive, but only the Human is found to be constantly inventive.
Inventiveness is dependent on the ability to think an original thought.
Among humans it has been determined that only 7.8% of human animals are able to think an original thought. Thereby relegating 82.2% of what appear to be humans to the animal only category. These can only repeat what they learn from others. They do not understand, but can be taught. This is why grade school is taught in this way. Teaching by rote and for the slowest in the class.
You had asked what I found wrong with Stephenson’s 33 principles. I can well understand that it never went over with the majority of Chiropractors. Although there are many areas that are obvious and true, it really is a very strange exposition with much circular logic all based on un-warranted faith. “Universal intelligence is, because it is…”?
The first time I tried to make it through this essay, I fell asleep by page 5. Basically, if the original essay was as presented in your book on Chiropractic Philosophy, it smacks more of a typical nonsense con presented by a religious huckster. Glad it doesn’t require handling snakes.
Art