Meditation, I am told, is emptying your mind of conscious thought. Yet the educated brain (the location of the mind) is not designed to be empty. “Nature abhors a vacuum”. It is an organ of the body designed to function, to have cells filled with information, to think. True meditation seems to me to be filling your mind with something (focusing), to the exclusion of everthing else, at least for a time. There is a time to “empty” the educated brain. We call it sleep and it is not done educatedly, it occurs innately. So here is the question: how does meditation in the eastern philosophy sense reconcile with our ADIO philosophy? Isn’t it outside-in?
In a word….FREEDOM. Less thinking means less clutter being thought about. Being free from clutter clutter comes the ability to better connect with universal intelligence and enabling a better expression of innate intelligence. At this point, one needs to just pay attention to that expression. Outside-in? No. Why? Because it’s a ZERO state of mind. Nothing going in, just being expressed from within.
As a wise man once said, Bob, “Can I get back to you on that? I should warn you….it might take a lifetime to get the answer for you” or until I figure out what the heck you are saying….but I am determined to figure you/it out!!
Hmmm….sounds familiar. I too am trying to figure that out! Tom might know….he’s endured my babble into late night discussions for years!
Bob, they say the brain is like a computer, GIGO. If that is the case then “Nothing going in” means nothing coming out. While that may be the best description of many chiropractors thought processes, I’m not sure that is the result we would desire. In fact, I think there is a technical term for that…Zombies!!
That’ a tough one. Learned from the outside in yet practiced from the inside out. If indeed innate uses the educated mind as it does all other organs to promote survival, we may develop an innate desire to cleanse the mind. Much like hunger is an innate call for nutrition, yet we must learn to feed ourselves through the education mind. Because we must learn and then decide how and when to meditate, like eating, it would seem to be OIBU. Careful Joe, the same question could be asked about religion.
Whew! You really know how to open a can of worms Steve. So… mediatation is like a high colonic for the educated brain? That’s an interesting idea… and interesting visual…but just as outside in. How about fasting to purge the system or even lose weight, what’s the difference, just application of outside-in on two different organs? How about hypnosis. All are to achieve a medical objective. In fact, most of the time, meditation is done to achieve a medical objective eg. relaxation, stress removal, bring down blood pressure, etc.
I’m not sure it is possible to “develop an innate desire”. Dr. Gelardi once said, “innate is something you are born knowing, educated is what you learn after birth”. The body has many innate cleansing mechanisms, including sleep for the educated mind. Do you ever feel refreshed after a good night’s sleep?
The educated is primarily to adapt us to our external environment, eating involves the external environment, at least until we begin to swallow, thereafter it is all innate.
On the subject of religion, we probably should be “asking the same question”. As I see it, chiropractic unites man the metaphysical (innate) with man the physical (matter). Religion is different, trying to unite man the non physical/everlasting (eg. soul) with the supernatural/eternal (eg. God). In that case meditation is either an outside-in therapeutic measure or it is religion or it is both (like christian science). I’m open to more discussion and input from others (and you also). Thanks.
To “develop an innate desire”, I was thinking of Bj’s statements of innate being an accumulation of survival actions or techniques learned over the eons of time as demonstrated by evolution. Kind of that 12th monkey thing. Weston the DDS noticed it took only one generation of eating refined foods for the mouth/teeth to get smaller in the next generation and the endodontist says people are being seen now without wisdom teeth. How fast does innate learn and how long does adaptation take, no one seems to know. Does innate learn, I bet it does, but it may take until the next generation to show up.
Steve, how can the innate intelligence of the body learn anything? It’s part of universal intelligence which is 100% whole, complete and perfect. It seems to me that the innate intelligence of the body adapts matter which is imperfect according to the manifestation of its limitation.
Good point CL. Perhaps learned was improper, but something is going on( adaptation / evolution) because we have changed over time. Could it possibly be that our environment has changed so radically that innate changed the blueprint to suit. Maybe Innate, the great adapter, is itself adaptable?
Properly applied, it is not OIBU. Depending on how it is used, it can fall under the category of Chiropractic Hygiene. It is a way to properly use the Educated Brain so as not to constantly agitate body function by “bothering” innate with nonsense.
Let me get this straight Steve. You want/expect a messed up educated brain to know what to do in order to “properly apply” and normalize itself in the best interest of the innate intelligence of the body. That’s like asking the fox to foxproof the henhouse. If he could, would he and if he would, could you trust that the job he did would not make it easier for him to break in? In your model, seems to me that the medical doctor with his antibiotics is also practicing Chiropractic Hygeine? Are you a Concept Therapist Steve? Not trying to ostracize or put you down if you are, all are welcome here, just trying to get a frame of reference.
Again, it depends upon how it (meditation) is applied and what you mean by meditation. And I agree, if you are attempting to manipulate body function (lower heart rate, blood pressure, change immunity, etc) with your educated mind, then of course that is outside in.
But your original question was:
Of course, “meditation in the eastern philosophy sense” depends on who you talk to. That is like saying, “chiropractic from the western philosophy sense,” but I will show a possible way to reconcile that with the ADIO philosophy.
So here is where I am coming from so you can, “get this Straight” (capitalization mine) as you say. 🙂
Depending on how it is done of course, it is not outside-in. Much of human thinking is repetitive, compulsive, negative, unnecessary and possibly even destructive. The educated brain is an organ designed for a specific use—-probably not for much of the “thinking” that goes on inside people’s head for most of the day (fear, worry, complaining, etc.) The human educated brain has grown out of control compared to most of the rest of the animal kingdom to the point where it can cause quite a bit of harm that is unique to people(Have you ever seen a bird not be able to sleep because it has anxiety about a public chirping it has to do the next morning? Or a frog with a self esteem problem that gets sick during the Holidays because it has issues with its parents? Or a zebra complain that it saw a friend get attacked by a lion 3 years ago and has had trouble with intimacy ever since) When this happens to people because of experiences stored up in their educated brain, are they using their educated brain, or is it using them?
Well on one hand yes, but not in the way that you assumed.
The Universal Diagram of Cycles shows the flow of information from the Educated Brain which “tinctures” (from educated experiences) percepts and sends the info back to Innate Brain, then to Innate Intelligence which then changes body function based on the info it recieves from the environment through educated brain.(as seen on the diagram: info from ii then goes to innate brain and to innate body)
Meditation is not necessarily burning incense, while muttering, “Om” in a cave.
Meditation can just be a way for the “I” (the awareness of awareness unit) of you to become aware of and observe when the educated brain is not in present time (when it is compulsively worrying, complaining, unnecessarily judging, etc.) These patterns persists only when one is unaware of their presence as they “hide in the shadows”. Meditation is becoming aware of the “noise” in your head. This awareness is like shining a light on them which dissipates them leaving only You and your perception of the immediate environment or whatever you CHOOSE to think about (whether a math problem, philosophical concept, etc.)
As one progresses through this activity, body function has to improve, not because you are educatedly trying to manipulate this or that, but because Innate is getting a more accurate picture of the current external environment (as opposed to being “bothered” by Educated about some past dreadful event that you are reliving in your head over and over which can cause Innate to recreate similar physiology of the original event)
I don’t think this one really needs a response as I have no idea how to make “killing bacteria with chemicals” ADIO.
I have never heard of, “Concept Therapy” until you just mentioned it. I just, “Googled” it and am reading a little from their website. Something about electrons…
Steve, first let me thank you for your time and graciousness in your response. As I read posts on other blogs/facebook I am encouraged that the comments here are always professional and that disagrrements are not put forth by disagreeable people. As I understand the ADIO approach, one is trying to remove interferences. As far as chiropractic is concerned, the interference is confined to the vertebral column. So right away, I hope we can agree that meditation, even if it removes interference is not chiropractic. That is why my question specified ADIO philosophy. That is not to say that there are no ADIO approaches that, while not chiropractic, strive to remove interfernce and that what you describe as “meditation” may be one of them. I must admit that my limited understanding of meditation is more of the “muttering, ‘Om’ in a cave” variety, hence, the reason for the original question. But I am willing to learn. That said, this is a chiropractic blog and not the forum for non chiropractic practices/procedures regardless of how beneficial they are. Since you address chiropractic philosophical concepts, I think continuing this dialogue will be helpful to readers and I would encourage others to join in. There are a number of chiropractic concepts that you address and need clarification/comment. For the sake of readers, I am going to number them and so that we do not go down too many rabbit holes, only address the first in this post (although others may be even more important.
1. You write “The human educated brain has grown out of control compared to most of the rest of the animal kingdom to the point where it can cause quite a bit of harm that is unique to people” Perhaps, the human brain was designed unlike the animal brain for a different purpose. I do not think it was designed to function on the level of the animals but so that great minds could develop chiropractic and appreciate the sound of a bird chirping or a Strauss waltz. While educated brains do mal- function as you describe, I don’t think that has to do with a lack of design but is due to lack of proper function, not the fault of the Designer or the innate intelligence within. Perhaps man’s educated brain is not working correctly not because it has design flaws but for other reasons, including but not limited to VS. But correcting the VS is our only area of interest. I’ll stop here but as a preview of coming attractiions…I want to discuss your explanation of the Universal Diagram which may be the concept that I have the biggest problem with.
I don’t know that your initial description of meditation is accurate enough to use as a fact from which to start a logical argument. While certain groups might describe meditation as emptying the mind of conscious thought, it is just as likely to be described as focusing on a single thought to the exclusion of others, as you say “for a time”. Examples of the later would be mantra, whether they take the form of the Hindu “Om”, the Buddhist “Om Mani Padme Hum”, or the Catholic “Our Father”. “Emptying your mind of conscious thought” is just one route to a mental/physiological state. There are many direction that might get you to that state, but no matter which set you follow the map will never be the territory.
A better, but still limited, description on meditation might be emptying the mind of analytical thought so as to allow the creative, fluid, and expansive processes of mind time to work. As such, meditation is an exercise in removing interference to full expression of human mental capacity.
The necessity of both the analytical and creative minds is obvious by the fact that innate intelligence, has adapted matter to form individuals of our species with both right and left cortices, each dominantly responsible for one of these processes.
Meditation is reconcilable with ADIO philosophy by understanding that, just as it may take application of force guided by educated mind to remove subluxation, it also may take input from the educated mind to balance the output of analytic vs. creative processes. We recognize that full expression of our innate capacity relies on a balance of these processes.
Thank you for your response. You may be correct that we have a problem defining our terms. My understanding of a mantra is that you purposely do not use words. We think in words, limited vocabulary, limited thought, no vocabulary, no thought. The examples you use (Hindu and Buddhist) are not words in my vocabularly. The “Our Father” example could be used as a mantra by somwone who has no english vocabulary, but to the Christian it is a prayer, communicating thought(s) to one’s heavenly Father. I have never heard of meditation as you define it being a prayer.
” Few people these days have developed the rhetorical, logical, or philosophical skills necessary to create and defend an argument of complicated concepts.” Does this comment from your other post (which I thought was very good, thank you) contradict what you are saying in this one. It seems to me that in a conscious state, the ii of my body wants my ed. brain working. It can only work with a vocabulary. When my ii tells me it is time for my eb to stop working, I go to bed. I could shut it down with drugs, alcohol, hypnosis or emptying it of thought by meditation but that seems outside-in to me.
First, I would like to make the disclaimer that in order to continue this conversation I may make references to religious practices removed from their religious context. I feel that this is the only way to discuss these concepts in an objective conversation about philosophy and science. In no way do I mean to minimize any given set of religious beliefs or practices.
Secondly, I would respond that I did not define meditation as prayer, but rather that prayer can be a form of meditation. You are correct that many traditional mantra do not have literal translations, rather they are often said to contain the complete teachings of a given religion or philosophy. By focusing on the words of the mantra we move focus from linear, analytical thought processes to emotional, expansive thought processes evoked by the emotion engendered by the relationship to the religion or philosophy. This is often done by repetition of phrases. While the “Our Father” or “Hail Mary” are considered prayers, serial repetition of these phrases may have the same objective effect on an individual’s thought process i.e transferred focus through evoked emotion.
I think you are too closely associating the state induced by meditation with that of sleep. Meditation is a conscious state, but not the same conscious state utilized to perform linear, analytical thinking. From an objective standpoint, the brain wave patterns produced during meditation are not the same as those produced during sleep, nor are they the same as those found in our daily linear thought processes. The brain in a conscious state can and does work without vocabulary or language (I would refer you to My Stroke of Insight by Jill Bolte Taylor, PhD), but I agree that our dominant concept of what defines consciousness is language.
I don’t think my two posts contradict each other at all. Rhetoric, logic, and philosophy as educated thought processes require the analytical, linear side of the equation to organize information as well as the creative side to make the intuitive and non-linear leaps that are required to advance beyond data regurgitation. Current neuroscience supports the concept that higher cognitive exercises require a synergy between the analytical and creative. It follows that using meditation to balance the output of analytic vs. creative processes and increase synergy between the two leads to increased abilities in higher cognitive exercises. This also supports your statement “It seems to me that in a conscious state, the ii of my body wants my ed. brain working”. The innate intelligence of the body wants the brain working, but “working” is not limited to analytical processes just as it is not limited to a single side of the brain. The full expression of the educated brain “at work” can only be reached through synergistic action of both hemispheres.
Drew, (if I may address you informally. Please call me Joe) I have been on vacation. I did reply to your comment, Sunday AM, spent 2.5 hrs writing it and lost my connection and lost the post. From now on I will write replies offline when I am in the mountains. All that to say you are now getting the abridged version, hopefully with a semblance of sound argument.
I think we are coming to the point where we may have to agree to disagree. In fact, I am going to sum up what I see as the impasse. In your second paragraph when discussing the mechanics of meditation you write “… By focusing on the words of the mantra we move focus from linear, analytical thought processes to emotional, expansive thought processes evoked by the emotion…” I do not think there can be a “synergy” as you later imply between “analytical and emotional thought processes”. In fact I would say that the two are mutually exclusive and that “emotional thought” is an oxymoron. The Greeks had two words for what you are describing as “linear analytical” and “emotional”; ‘gnosis” and “splanchnon” respectively. The former, to them, was far superior to the latter. I realize that the popular idea is the new age thinking of blending these two but I see that as mixing oil and water. Thinking (linear, analytical thought processes) is meant to be the precipitator of action. Emotion is not meant to be a precipitator of action but an appreciator of it. It follows not leads, is a result not the cause. Combining the two does not add to the thought process but interferes with it. Courage is the ability to think under pressure and ignore the fear (an emotion). You cannot think when you are emoting. You should emote in the locker room, after the clock runs down to 00:00 or after the final out. Think during the game. You cannot do both at the same time. You summed it up best in another post. (I hope you do not think it out of context). You wrote: “The majority of the “principled” segment of the profession seems like they would rather get pumped up on spizz than critically think about philosophical principles.” That’s why, in my opinion, the greatest communicator of my generation is Reggie. He did not try to reach people through emotional spizz but by conveying “philosophical principles”. I admit to getting emotional at times but I realize that it is not helpful to critical analytical thought, and in fact, detracts from it. Objective straight chiropractic (beside meaning we have an objective, for every chiropractor has an objective) means we have a deductive, logical, analytical thought process, a principle or standard greater than ourselves. The opposite of objective is subjective meaning you set the standard using anything you want including and often soley emotions. I think the majority of mixing is because chiropractors lose sight of what they KNOW is best for their PMs (correcting their VS) and become emotionally attached to their PMs suffering/ symptoms/complaint. Today we are encouraged to “go with your emotions(the definition of the grk splanchnon is gut feelings or emotions becase the greeks when emotional got “butterflys” in their stomach)”, “listen to your heart rather than your head” (mistranslation of word heart. In fact in the greek, the heart is defined as the right lobe of the brain, not a pump in the chest cavity and definitely not emotions).
My conclusion is that emotions, when they are not the natural result of actions but are intended to precipitate action, are changing body chemistry to influence thought processes, just as a chemical/drug does. Meditation may do that without the individual even knowing it and to my thinking, that is outside-in and perhaps even more dangerous than knowingly taking a drug. Drew, thank you for making me think and giving me the opportunity to share those thoughts. Joe
Joe, thank you for your reply. As someone who lives on the back side of a mountain I understand and sympathize with the frustration of dropped internet connections when writing online.
I think that our discussion is still suffering from the fact that I did not properly define my terminology, or that we do not agree on the definitions. I used the term emotional thought and creative thought interchangeably to relate the concept of the thought processes of the right mind; where “thought” is an act of consciousness.
I must disagree with your statement concerning the relationships between action, analytical thought, and emotion. While it may be true that analytical thought usually precedes action, that does not mean that it was only analytical thought that occurred before the action. Emotion, as an “appreciator” of incoming information, modulates the value attached to events and, as such, partially defines actions in response to those outside stimuli. No human activity, in the real world, exist devoid of emotional modulation. You define Courage as “the ability to think under pressure and ignore the fear”, by which you support my last argument. It is the modulation of the value attached to thinking or acting by the emotion of fear that defines courage. Without the emotional modulation it is just thinking or acting.
Perhaps we can agree the our innate intelligence has developed us, as average humans, to have two cerebral hemispheres each, generally, responsible for certain conscious tasks. The left hemisphere is dominantly responsible for language, analysis, mathematics, linear thought, and the perception of time and space. The right hemisphere is dominantly responsible for creativity, present-only consciousness, emotion, and artistic thought. The right mind, moment by moment, creates a master collage of how this instant in time looks, tastes, sounds, and feels. It is the right mind that allows us to think intuitively, and creatively explore the possibilities that exist in each moment “outside of the box” of rules that limit pure, linear thinking. While I understand your objection to the phrase “emotional thought”, can we agree that higher cognitive abilities, especially the ability to think creatively and advance reasoning beyond rote recitation, require synergy between the left and right minds? The left brain taking the rich, complex moments created by the right and stringing them together in timely succession; organizing them into a methodical configuration. I don’t see this concept as some sort of “new age” blending, but rather an objective reality that has been demonstrated through scientific advancement in brain imaging such as functional MRI.
I find your conclusion confusing in light of your work to advance the philosophy of chiropractic. You conclude that eliciting emotions and thereby accessing the right mind, “when not the natural result of actions” is comparable to taking drugs. The act of analytical thinking has just as many possible physiological ramifications. It seems that by your logic, purposely engaging in analytical thought, not spontaneously elicited, would also be outside-in and possibly more dangerous than knowingly taking a drug. Just as we can use the tools of mathematics or the rules of logical argument to stimulate and access the functions of the left mind, we can use conscious tools such as creative writing, art, or meditation to stimulate and access the function of right mind. How can you encourage the purposeful exercise of one side of the brain through reason and analysis, and reject the purposeful exercise of the other through activities like meditation? Inside-out “thinking” seems to be limited to something like BJ’s “thot flashes” or stream of consciousness, without reason or reflection. I would argue that these thot flashes and their outward expression, would only be possible through synergy of the the two cerebral hemispheres. In order to reach equilibrium of thought processes we must either refuse to purposely exercise either hemispheres or purposely exercise both hemispheres. This is where we get into the conundrum of how meditation might fit into a ADIO philosophy.
Is it outside-in to practice meditation (or creative writing or art for that matter)?
Innate intelligences creates humans with two cerebral hemispheres, each with specific faculties
Societal factors encourage disproportionately more activity in the left mind, interfering with the innately designed expression.
In order to remove interference to the normal expression of ii we must allow it the chance to exercise the right mind.
In my view, meditation is compatible with an ADIO philosophy as long as the objective of meditation is to give the innate intelligence of the body time to exercise or express the faculties of the right mind as it may, without educated interference from our dominant left mind. If, as one performs their meditative ritual, innate intelligence chooses not to exercise the right mind, then that is its normal function and expression at that moment. If we continuously use our educated mind to suppress the right mind’s faculties we are, perhaps unconsciously, acting from outside-in. Likewise, if your objective is to utilize meditation exercises to consciously control or alter physiological processes than it becomes outside-in.
As you say, we may just need to agree to disagree, but I welcome your response.
Drew, it seems like this discussion has gotten to the point of having to parse every word. I’m afraid much of what you are presenting is out of my limited area of expertise (which is chiropractic philosophy and some theology) so I am just going to ask questions, so we should probably go one sentence/point at a time. You write:
“I used the terms emotional thought and creative thought interchangeably to relate the concept of the thought processes of the right mind; where “thought” is an act of consciousness.”
I have never heard the terms used interchangeably.
1. What is a “creative thought?” Does that mean a thought that precipitates (creates) action, a thought no one has ever had before, a thought that developed from previous thinking, or what? Was BJ Palmer’s development of the normal complete cycle a creative thought, what was emotional about it, did it involve any activity outside the “right mind”?
2. I know how we use the word “mind” in chiropractic philosophy… activity in the educated brain. How are you using it?
3. I know how we use the term consciousness in chiropractic…awareness. How are you using it?
4. Is there consciousness/thought in the left mind/brain? Did BJ use the left at all to “create” the NCC? If he did how are the two sides/lobes related?
5. Perhaps you could explain the process of how the NCC came into existence and how it relates to the left and/or right mind/brain/lobe activity. Please begin with innate intelligence.
I think this may be a start.
I was taught and practiced Transcendental Meditation (TM) back in the early 70’s. The mantra was a meaningless phrase that was supposed to be specific for that particular person. The creation of Google has since blown that (and many other things) out of the water.
I find some conflict between my philosophy of above down inside out and training the body from outside in to do what the educated mind says. That’s almost like concentrating on relaxing, when the two are opposites. That’s like asking someone for the next 30 seconds to not think of a pink elephant. Now don’t think of a pink elephant! And the more you’re determined not to think of it, the more you think of it. So you go into conscious ways of trusting the body to run itself, by running it. I see conflict there philosophically.
Tom, when you write “So you go into conscious ways of trusting the body to run itself, by running it”. I assume you mean “…..by running it” through the use of the educated brain. Thanks for the experiential insight.
Yes Joe, through the educated brain. Back then we didn’t have the luxury of the internet to investigate such things as meditation. One only has to look up adverse effects of meditation to see the problems of trying to run the body from outside in.
Hey guys,
How about observing what’s going on… inside or outside… just for the sake of observing?
Claude,
What about the observer effect, wherein the act of observation may possibly impact the output of a process? If observation can change output, should we avoid observing no matter what our objective? Or do we accept any change in output as change mandated by innate in response to a given stress, and therefore normal expression?
Good point Drew. The very fact of our existence in this universe impacts ALL processes of this universe. It’s the butterfly principle.
When we observe for the sake (objective) of observing, we get out of the way from the past and future (no thoughts) and we are present to what’s going on inside and outside us. That very surrender is healing at it’s best.
Have you ever let an animal hold a soft gaze with your eyes? I know it from my cat, Jasmine, and from other animals specially deer I have encountered in nature. It is somehow healing and connecting at a deep level. And it is always compassionate!
That is the healing power of nature… the innate intelligence of the body if you will. When we observe for the sake of observing, we “allow” ourselves to be healed in the deep by getting out of the way (the ultimate removal of interference) and it gives us the courage to return the compliment, as it were. Then we appreciate the wholeness
of it all. And YES, the observer has a definite impact on the observed!
And it’s NOT the objective of chiropractic which is the LACVS for a full expression of the innate intelligence of the body. Period! 🙂
Claude, please, that’s too simple! 😉 But you are oh, so right! 🙂
It may be late in the conversation but we need to remember, not all OIBU is “bad”. Innate does use the educated brain to help us adapt to our environment.
Steve, I may be missing something. How is the ii of the body’s use of the educated brain outside-in?
Not the use of educated, that would be ADIO. The educated, however does control a lot of OIBU. Hunger is innate but much of what we eat is learned, either from our parents or heritage, or mass advertizing. Now let’s say I read a book that says eating starch and protein at the same time is less than ideal for proper digestion. Then I find I actually have less bloating when I follow this OIBU advice. I would have to say this was good OIBU. My point was that OIBU is not always bad, even though we strive to live an ADIO lifestyle, there is good learning as well as bad.
I understand now, Steve. I guess I never thought of good educated being outside-in. I feel that good educated is what the ii would do if it could (in your example, which it cannot) and that is ADIO thinking. Is the educated decision to live innatelly ouside-in? the decision you made perhaps was a good decision for you, due to limitations of YOUR body. The desire/need to treat is outside-in and may be good or bad. But since we have an ED B, to be used there must be an ADIO way of using it, while not chiropractic. Good discussion. I think more imput would be valuble. Thanks.
Ok let me ask you a question. (Whether you post it for comment or not is up to you) Is it possible to GIVE an innate adjustment. BJ ascribed more to innate than OSC philosophers of today, but I know sometimes the best adjustments I give come from with-in, and without much forethought. Is that ii acting through me or am I just “in the zone” I understand we must learn to adjust, and ii is the organizing principle concerned with survival. So can there be an ii to ii connection? Or are all adjustments a product of the educated brain?
The adjustive thrust is entirely educated (understanding that EB cannot work without ii). It may also be accidental, falling down a flight of steps (which may be better than some chiropractor’s educated thrusts!) The adjustment on the other hand is totally innate (the ii of the PM). There is no such thing as innate to innate communication. The closest thing to an innate (of the chiropractor) adjustment is when the chiropractor has just been cleared. Don’t tell Claude but that’s why I always check his spine before he checks mine on Wed nites. I think adjusting is an art form and like any art form, say hitting a baseball, is done better “in the zone”. It seems to be almost innate but it is still an educated activity that comes about by much experience and removing interferences both VS and distractions to the educated brain which I see as being in the zone. Another factor of being in the zone, seems to me to be when I am busy. I don’t have time to allow distractions. That’s another thing that is good about volume practice.
This discussion of the ED B has stirs my curiosity. I have enjoyed this thread of discussion. Sorry this post is so late. Can the Educated Brain make good “outside in” choices which can best serve the well-being of the body. Just as we learn NOT to touch a hot stove, isn’t that the same EB that tells us that eat to many calories are NOT cardiovascular friendly. Of course none of this is Chiropractic and follows the “OIBU.” Even so, does this not tie into our ultimate goal of survival?
Steven, I think you may have some mistaken ideas regarding EB and outside in thinking (you are not alone). An educated decision is not necessarily outside-in. The decision to go to a chiropractor is good educated but if it is for the purpose of getting rid of a medical symptom, or the cause of a medical problem it is outside-in, the decision to treat a medical condition with drugs or surgery may be good or bad educated, (depending on the circumstances) but it is outside -in. Outside-in is a way of thinking. Good eating habits are ADIO. Eating the same food to treat a cardiovascular problem is OIBU. My newest e-book Conflict of Philosophy explains ADIO vs. outside-in. Sorry for the crass commercial!
Steve,
We are NOT the one producing the adjustment. The ii of the body is! We introduce the best possible educated force with the best line of drive for the listing at hand. That’s all. Period. 🙂
So you feel that all the adjustments you give are a product of your educated mind? Then is there no difference between an adjustment and a manipulation? Innate takes the applied force and adapts it to the needs for the body. I was taught we Chiropractors adjust the spine so innate can correct the subluxation. I guess my question is can there be communication between innates. Or can my innate sense what a patient needs and deliver appropriately?
Steve,
We chiropractor deliver a specific educated thrust, on a specific vertebra, with a specific line of drive, for the specific purpose of introducing an invasive force that MIGHT used by the innate intelligence of the body to produce a specific adjustment to correct a specific vertebral subluxation. It’s not manipulation which is random and non-directed and non-specific.
The mission of innate intelligence is to maintain the material of the body of a living thing in active organization. It is the principle of organization as Drew mentioned and as such, a principle does not sense, feel, intuit, communicate… the principle of innate intelligence simply organizes living matter.
I meant that MIGHT be used by…
That’s a knock-out punch Joseph! There I thought you were being kind,
compassionate, generous, loving… and all the while you wanted me to be cleared so you could get a OIBU educated force from me? Thank God for the ii of your body. I know I am grateful to ii whenever I get a force introduced into my body by your educated choice. 🙂
Honest Joe I did not tell him, I wonder how he found out?