Is there a level of intelligence greater than or outside of the innate intelligence of the body?
10 thoughts on “Q&A #32 Levels of Innate Intelligence”
There is universal intelligence and there is God which has been considered outside of chiropractic philosophy but exists nonetheless. These are the intelligences other than innate, of course there is human intelligence as well!
Scott, agreed, there is God, ui and ed. intelligence. But is there something else apart from these. If not how do we explain this video? http://vimeo.com/31158841
BJ would call that innate (personified). Many schools of fish, bee hives and ants colonies behave the same way. It’s like the green sea turtles of the Galapagos Islands that swim 13,000 miles only to return to the same shore they were born 8 years later to lay their eggs. Or the butterflies of the Alaskan territories, flying 3,000 miles to a Southern Mexican Grove to mate and die. Today, I would call that, natural species intelligence. It’s a built-in intelligence (animal-instinct) derived from the organization of the LAW of LIFE which is: innate intelligence – innate force – innate matter of the species involved.
Hey Claude,
I like that, “species level”. Just like the baby squirming up to the breast after birth or the horse that strives to stand so soon after birth. Some traits are common only to some species, for the perpetuation of their individual species I suppose.
Claude, did you see the video attachment to my reply to Scott of mumuration? Your examples of “built-in intelligence (animal instinct)”, I understand and agree but that is something in the matter of all birds, butterflys and turtles off those particular species. Every one will do that..its in the genes. But the choreography of murmuration seems to me to be a little different….seems like there is some sort of communication between the birds and we know that there is no such thing as innate to innate communication (as BJ/RW define ii). I remember some years ago a flock of starlings would fly over my office every afternoon about an hour before sunset from late fall to early spring and roost for the night in the woods at the end of the street. They estimated 6-7 million birds in the flock. It would begin one day and end on one day. The sky would be blackened for as far as the eye could see for about 1/2 hour daily (including Sunday:). Apparently they were feeding in the fields around Newtown and then flying over the office.The PMs would have to make a mad dash from car to office during that half hour and the noise sounded like a Hitchcock movie. That could be explained by the same migratory principle that you describe as an innate/matter-instinct phenomena. But the murmuration phenomena, that does not seem to be purposeful like migration but seems to be structured and does not fit my idea of instinct/innate.
Chiropractic is not based on personal beliefs. It based on a major premise (pri.1) and deductive reasoning from that MP. It is accessible to ALL and is fully INCLUSIVE of ALL of life regardless of personal beliefs. –
– Chiropractic philosophy is about maintaining the integrity of the triune of life: intelligence – force – matter. NTOSC is one WHO chooses to LACVS for a full expression of the innate forces of the innate intelligence of the body. PERIOD! –
– PHILOSOPHICALLY, to restore and maintain the integrity of the “concept” of the triune of life, is WHY the NTOSC is one WHO chooses to practice WHAT the objective of chiropractic is. HOW it is done with the “concrete” human being is by LACVS. PERIOD!
My statement above was relating to the post you made regarding the “power that made the body heals the body” NOT this thread above regarding the levels of innate intelligence. Sorry about that.
How do you know murmuration is not purposeful? When geese travel from Core Creek Lake in Langhorne to Lake Afton in Yardley why do they fly in a V formation? Because it is most effective for creating lift and diminishing the drag of the air flow. When communities of beavers in Canada build one hundred foot dam, there may be 3 or 4 beavers pulling on a single large wood log. Why can they not communicate with one another? Have you ever taught your dog tricks? Animal intelligence does exists you know.
Look at dolphins doing jumps at Disney World and swimming backward on their tails. That’s natural species intelligence in action is it not? You can’t teach that trick to a trout can you? 😉
So you are saying that natural “species intelligence” is the same as educated intelligence and apparently there is a means of communication between them. Do dolphins in the “wild” do that or must they be trained. If dolphins can be trained and trout cannot then it is not an innate function but an educated one and trout have less ei than dolphins. So the ultimate insult is that “you are as dumb as a trout” If ii is the same then it must be ei because ii is always the same in all species 100%, whether its a one celled anima,l a trout, or a human being. Conclusion, all animals have a different level of ei???
Remember that I said it was BJ who would call that innate (personified). I disagree with that.
I called that natural intelligence of the species. I do not know if dolphins swim backward on their tails in the wild, however I do know they can be trained in a controlled environment. We can conclude that animal have some educated intelligence and probably different levels too. Human beings have different IQs. May be different species have different abilities to “learn” and “remember”??? – WHO knows???
You are absolutely correct that ii is 100% in all “living things” PROPORTIONAL to its organization (species matter)pri.22. Murmuration cannot be ii. It has to be natural species intelligence (some instinct, some educated and some genetics) pertaining to each different species. What do YOU think now? And don’t be a trout please! 😉
There is universal intelligence and there is God which has been considered outside of chiropractic philosophy but exists nonetheless. These are the intelligences other than innate, of course there is human intelligence as well!
Scott, agreed, there is God, ui and ed. intelligence. But is there something else apart from these. If not how do we explain this video?
http://vimeo.com/31158841
Joseph,
BJ would call that innate (personified). Many schools of fish, bee hives and ants colonies behave the same way. It’s like the green sea turtles of the Galapagos Islands that swim 13,000 miles only to return to the same shore they were born 8 years later to lay their eggs. Or the butterflies of the Alaskan territories, flying 3,000 miles to a Southern Mexican Grove to mate and die. Today, I would call that, natural species intelligence. It’s a built-in intelligence (animal-instinct) derived from the organization of the LAW of LIFE which is: innate intelligence – innate force – innate matter of the species involved.
Hey Claude,
I like that, “species level”. Just like the baby squirming up to the breast after birth or the horse that strives to stand so soon after birth. Some traits are common only to some species, for the perpetuation of their individual species I suppose.
Claude, did you see the video attachment to my reply to Scott of mumuration? Your examples of “built-in intelligence (animal instinct)”, I understand and agree but that is something in the matter of all birds, butterflys and turtles off those particular species. Every one will do that..its in the genes. But the choreography of murmuration seems to me to be a little different….seems like there is some sort of communication between the birds and we know that there is no such thing as innate to innate communication (as BJ/RW define ii). I remember some years ago a flock of starlings would fly over my office every afternoon about an hour before sunset from late fall to early spring and roost for the night in the woods at the end of the street. They estimated 6-7 million birds in the flock. It would begin one day and end on one day. The sky would be blackened for as far as the eye could see for about 1/2 hour daily (including Sunday:). Apparently they were feeding in the fields around Newtown and then flying over the office.The PMs would have to make a mad dash from car to office during that half hour and the noise sounded like a Hitchcock movie. That could be explained by the same migratory principle that you describe as an innate/matter-instinct phenomena. But the murmuration phenomena, that does not seem to be purposeful like migration but seems to be structured and does not fit my idea of instinct/innate.
Scott,
I agree!
Chiropractic is not based on personal beliefs. It based on a major premise (pri.1) and deductive reasoning from that MP. It is accessible to ALL and is fully INCLUSIVE of ALL of life regardless of personal beliefs. –
– Chiropractic philosophy is about maintaining the integrity of the triune of life: intelligence – force – matter. NTOSC is one WHO chooses to LACVS for a full expression of the innate forces of the innate intelligence of the body. PERIOD! –
– PHILOSOPHICALLY, to restore and maintain the integrity of the “concept” of the triune of life, is WHY the NTOSC is one WHO chooses to practice WHAT the objective of chiropractic is. HOW it is done with the “concrete” human being is by LACVS. PERIOD!
Scott,
My statement above was relating to the post you made regarding the “power that made the body heals the body” NOT this thread above regarding the levels of innate intelligence. Sorry about that.
Joseph,
How do you know murmuration is not purposeful? When geese travel from Core Creek Lake in Langhorne to Lake Afton in Yardley why do they fly in a V formation? Because it is most effective for creating lift and diminishing the drag of the air flow. When communities of beavers in Canada build one hundred foot dam, there may be 3 or 4 beavers pulling on a single large wood log. Why can they not communicate with one another? Have you ever taught your dog tricks? Animal intelligence does exists you know.
Look at dolphins doing jumps at Disney World and swimming backward on their tails. That’s natural species intelligence in action is it not? You can’t teach that trick to a trout can you? 😉
So you are saying that natural “species intelligence” is the same as educated intelligence and apparently there is a means of communication between them. Do dolphins in the “wild” do that or must they be trained. If dolphins can be trained and trout cannot then it is not an innate function but an educated one and trout have less ei than dolphins. So the ultimate insult is that “you are as dumb as a trout” If ii is the same then it must be ei because ii is always the same in all species 100%, whether its a one celled anima,l a trout, or a human being. Conclusion, all animals have a different level of ei???
Remember that I said it was BJ who would call that innate (personified). I disagree with that.
I called that natural intelligence of the species. I do not know if dolphins swim backward on their tails in the wild, however I do know they can be trained in a controlled environment. We can conclude that animal have some educated intelligence and probably different levels too. Human beings have different IQs. May be different species have different abilities to “learn” and “remember”??? – WHO knows???
You are absolutely correct that ii is 100% in all “living things” PROPORTIONAL to its organization (species matter)pri.22. Murmuration cannot be ii. It has to be natural species intelligence (some instinct, some educated and some genetics) pertaining to each different species. What do YOU think now? And don’t be a trout please! 😉