Is there a difference between the terms “life” and “health” or would you just describe health as a degree of life?
Is there a difference between the terms “life” and “health” or would you just describe health as a degree of life?
Life is the expression of inate intelligence through innate matter.
Health is a state of physical, mental and social well-being.
If life is the expression of innate intelligence through matter, then health, as a state of optimal wellbeing for a given set of organized matter, is one characteristic of ii being expressed to a full or unimpeded degree.
P1: Life is the expression of ii through matter
P2: This expression can vary in degree in an individual due to limitations of matter and time
P3: This expression is evidenced through the characteristics of living things.
P4: Health is a characteristic of living things
C: Therefore, health is a degree of life
I don’t think there is any incongruence with the ADIO philosophy in saying that health is a degree of life, but it doesn’t “sound” right. We tend think of life as binary (a given lump of matter is either expressing ii or it isn’t), whereas we think of health as a continuum varying due to the limitations of time and matter. The argument is sound but incomplete.
If you try a substitute statement with another characteristic of living things it points out the awkwardness of the original. For example: “Manual dexterity is a degree of life”. The statement is true in that manual dexterity is an expression of ii through matter and does vary according to limitations of time and matter. However, the statement doesn’t add anything substantial to an argument about life and may confuse the reader.
Question #1: Is VS part of P2, a limitation of matter? Question #2: Can we conclude that Life as the expression of intelligence through matter has an absolute as well as a relative component/aspect to it and we describe the relative as “health”?
I would say that VS is an example of a limitation of matter for two reasons. First, it limits the expression of innate intelligence. Second, it exists in the material realm but not in the immaterial. Actually the second
may be redundant in that, as far as we’re concerned, intelligence is only expressed in the material realm.
Absolute and relative are much better words to describe the aspects of Life than the ones I used.
Health is right optimal function. Most people live in perceived health, most people give up on health and out of despair, lack of a diff option, learn to live in perceived health.
perceived health is dependent on the perceiver.
And later, they don’t beleive anymore that there can be optimal function. Now we have the job of reminding them that they have the option to choose health, by letting us reignighting their power.
The problem is that once they have lived in perceived health, they had to give up the acknoledgement of their power.
That is, I beleive our real challenge.
Life is a triune: Intelligence, Force and Expression. Health is an expression or product of life. There are many others but it seems we commonly use health as the measure. Maybe because we are involved in “healthcare” we see that as the yardstick. Work and love are also products or expressions of life. It would be hard to imagine a fulfilled life devoid of work or love or joy, even with great health.
Steve,
Which principle of chiropractic states “expression” as being part of the triune? How about non-matter or anti-matter… for that matter? (pun intended) 🙂
Hey Claude,
I was not quoting a particular principle. I guess I’m not familiar with all the rules of this blog. However, matter is the point (location) of expression. Without expression the matter is useless or “jobless”. We cannot measure or even observe ii or the force of a mental impulse, only the evidence of them (expression). As a matter of fact I don’t quite know how non-matter or antimatter would express itself, do you? As a chiropractor I don’t measure matter, that is the MD’s job, but I do observe expression and hope the adjustment helps improve it to as close to 100% as possible. Does the NCM measure matter or detect expression,with a balanced straight line heat reading being the highest form of expression?
PS You guys are straining my gray matter, and I love it.
PSS I just found your book at Sherman and am looking forward to reading it.
Steve, it’s not about rules. It’s about WHO we choose to BE with chiropractic. This blog is a vehicle for all of us to BE transformed with the philosophy of chiropractic.
According to the Major Premise, without intelligence matter would NOT exist. Period.
Now, the question is, does intelligence exist without matter?
What do you think?
I’m also inviting everyone to come on board and share their thoughts with us. We are here to grow together.
That’s a real brain twister Claude. Matter is matter because of intelligence and intelligence is only evident because of matter.
I see nothing in the 33 principles that says intelligence “created” matter. Organizes, maintains, defines it’s properties, yes, but no distinction as to which came first.
So at first it would seem an obligatory co-existence but in the end I say yes. Intelligence can exist without matter, but only theoretically. Without material evidence it is only a concept (not unlike anti-matter). As Reggie wrote “….if the presence of intelligence is to be proven, it is necessary only to demonstrate what may be called active organization…”.
And possibly matter could exist without intelligence, just not as we know it (actively organized).
Now my gray matter is really smoking. Before my brain turns to ash, may I have your opinion sir?
I will give you my opinion Steve. I promise. I want to hear what others have to say as well. So, relax and thank you for sharing.
Steve,
You and Drew were the only ones to venture into this question and address it. I’m sure there are many WHO have opinions about it. Personally, I do not know whether intelligence can or cannot exist without matter. The “a priori” assumption of the Major Premise that Drew mentioned, does states: “There is a universal intelligence in all matter…” The assumption is not that universal intelligence exist without matter. Universal implies matter and the ADIO viewpoint always includes the triune of life which is intelligence-force-matter.
Now, that is the problem that many fall into when chiropractors attempt to go into the metaphysical component of the vertebral subluxation, the interference with the MENTAL impulse. It is beyond the matter, it is in the realm of intelligent in-FORM-ation… which gives rise to FORM-ing and ORGAN-izing the matter into LIFE (pr. 8-9-10).
It is good to remember that the interference with the mental impulse occurs in the matter ONLY… between brain cell and tissue cell (pr.31). The objective of chiropractic is LACVS for a full expression of the innate intelligence of the body… thus, force is the component of the triune that is either non-adapted (universal force) or adapted (innate force). VS is a nerve interference that interferes with the “flow” of mental impulse. VS changes the character of the force from innate force (adapted by the innate intelligence of the body and constructive toward structural matter) back to universal force (unadapted and destructive toward structural matter), thereby causing dis-ease.
At this point, we deduce that LACVS restores the integrity of the triune which is principle # 5: “In order to have 100% life there must be 100% intelligence, 100% force, and 100% matter”.
As we practice with the intention to fulfill the objective of chiropractic, we will adopt the ADIO viewpoint…, tell the story over and over and over and over again in as many ways as we possibly can in accordance with the 33 principles and choose techniques that support the LACVS.
We do not have to speculate or use faith as a method of perception to answer the question of whether intelligence exist without matter. We have to live the question by persevering into our having been called to be a chiropractor until the “last sputter of flame” that we chose to express as a human being.
It is as simple as that!
I have a question Joseph for ALL who read this blog.
Why so few are willing to share their thoughts, knowledge and feelings on this blog?
I see this blog as a fantastic tool to grow deeper into “owning” of the philosophy of chiropractic. Even if we were to repeat over and over and over again the same comments, we still might “hear” something different as we ourselves are being transformed into what we are called to BE. And sometimes, we might even surprise ourselves with some insights into the ADIO viewpoint… insights even better than those Joe Strauss!
It is St. Thomas Aquinas who said: “Repetition is the mother of ALL learning”.
Claude,
If we stay within the realm of ADIO philosophy, then intelligence can exist without matter. It is the a priori assumption of the Major Premise that there is a Universal Intelligence. That intelligence is “in” matter and gives matter its characteristics, but exists independently from it. Because our perception is limited to the material it is hard to imagine, and impossible to empirically observe, a universe without any matter.
Slightly Off Topic: I recently heard a radio program featuring a physicists who stated that, following the concepts of multiverse theory, it is theoretically possible to create a universe from scratch with about 10kg of matter. Though it would be completely separate and distinct from our own, I would think that the universal forces of the new universe would be nearly identical to our own since it must inherit the properties of the matter used to create it.
Drew, can gravity exist without matter? Would not the law of gravity and the law of organization (ui) be equivalent laws, either needing or not needing matter to exist?
The function of intelligence is to create force and the amount of force created by intelligence is always 100% (princ. 8-9). The function of force is to unite intelligence and matter (princ. 10).
So through proper deductive reasoning, we see that intelligence creates force for a function which is to unite itself to matter. If matter does not exist, what would be the function of intelligence?
Thoughts anyone?
It seems that the conclusion could only be that there can be no function of intelligence in the absence of matter, because there can be no intelligence in the absence of matter.
Drew, I think I’m going to disagree with you here. if there is no matter it seems to me that does not affect the existence of the principle (#1). The MP says there is a ui in all matter but it does not say that absence of matter means intelligence is absent. If we look at ui as a law (or principle), does the law of gravity cease to exist in space? No its expression or as you say, its “function” ceases to exist but not the law. Here’s the point (as I see it): a law is 100% which means it cannot be less than 100% (cease to exist/be 0%) unless the Lawmaker rescinds it. The three aspects of the Triune are seperate but united. Force depends upon the existence of intelligence as does matter. Force depends upon matter. I is the beginning point and it only depends upon F&M for its expression but not is existence. This may be a situation in which we are going beyond chiropractic philosophy and into theology because our philosophy starts with intelligence in matter. I think we are going beyond our MP since before any matter came into existence, there had to be the Law of organization (ui) otherwise matter could never come into existence. (Whew!, I think I’ve given myself a headache)
Good observation Drew. From deductive reasoning your are consistent with the START point of chiropractic which is the Major Premise: “There is a universal intelligence in ALL matter constantly giving to it all its properties and activities, thereby maintaining it in existence”. I see no flaws in your logic. Therefore according to deductive reasoning your conclusion is correct.
Why is it always the matter that is imperfect. According to every thing I have read DD was a spiritual man and in most religions I am familiar with it is the “flesh” that is considered weak. Is there a connection here? Do you think our philosophy would have been different if DD or BJ had been non-religious?
Steve, educated intelligence is always imperfect, therefore it’s NOT only and always the matter that is imperfect.
The AMAZING attribute of chiropractic philosophy is that it is inclusive of ALL of life and excludes NONE of life. The triune is equally active in plants, animals, fish and human beings. The philosophy of chiropractic is WHAT it is. Belief in anything or lack thereof does not influence it.
For the purpose of understanding matter, perhaps we could use the word INCOMPLETE instead of imperfect. For example: A polar bear has the capacity to sustain sub-zero arctic temperatures. An african panther cannot. A whale can plunge into the depth of the ocean. An eagle cannot. A person can do calculus and send mankind to the moon. A monkey cannot…. etc.
The point is that matter is limited and incomplete whether one has faith or is an atheist.
Ui is a group of laws, as we understand it, it works 100% of the time. Therefore Ui is perfect. Ii is a subset of ui, so it too is perfect although limited to living things. Force is created by ii and since ii is perfect, the creation (force) is perfect.
So is matter imperfect and/or limited because it was created by neither ui or ii? How would this apply to in-organic matter? Have we ever found in-organic matter to be imperfect?
So maybe it is not the matter that is imperfect, maybe it is the organization (expression) that is imperfect or better said non-permanent? Could it be said that ii is only temporary or superficial, then ui takes over and organization is lost or diminished because ultimately ui overrides ii?
Is ei imperfect because it is a product of matter?
I would say yes. ei is the expression of ii through (ed brain) matter. The ii is always perfect but the matter can be imperfect.
How can the matter be imperfect if it gets all its properties from ui, do you mean the expression is imperfect due to the limitations of matter?
Then we would have to assume first, we can never have 100% life because ii expression is always flawed by the lom with or without subluxation. Then 2nd, more flawed with subluxation.
Are you confusing/interchanging innate matter and universal matter? U. matter is always expresses 100% life (existence). Innate matter has limitations, genetic, trauma, incoordination, cellular death in which case it is now u matter, expressing perfect ui.
whoops, I shoud have written “expressing ui perfectly”.
Expression is fallible do to the limits of matter?
Again, I would say yes.
I would say that ui is one of many laws. It is the law of organization. There is also the law of gravity. Laws can be set aside temporarily (miracles), they can be superceded by other laws also temporarily. The law of aerodynamics supercedes gravity. The law of active organization (ii) supercedes the law of organization (ui). But the expression of these laws is limited by L. of matter. That’s why we die and go back to expressing ui and why the jet plane runs out of fuel and gravity takes over (is once again expressed).
Oh boy! Oh boy! Great analogy Joseph. It is very true that one of the biggest problem in general aviation is poor fuel management on the part of the pilot in command. I always like the old saying: “It is better to be on the ground and wishing to be in the air than being in the air (running out of fuel) and wishing to be on the ground. The law of gravity will again CERTAINLY be expressed.
Conversely, one of the biggest problem a chiropractor encounters in practice is choosing to be “NOT READY” for the practice members needs. Here’s a NEW saying: “It is better to be ready to serve and wishing to have a day off than working at the office and being “not ready” to serve.
“The law of aerodynamics supersedes gravity. The law of active organization (ii) supersedes the law of organization (ui).”
That makes perfect sense. Especially if you add, temporarily and as long as energy is expended.
Lom is not a weakness in the substance of the matter but a limit to the organizational structure of that matter, hence Claude’s analogy of the polar bear unable to survive in the tropics. His structure was organized for an arctic environment (the bear, not Claude) so in the tropics his limit of adaptation is surpassed.
And that’s what happens, Joseph, when we go beyond our Major Premise. Headaches!!! We do not belong into metaphysical realms in chiropractic and we have no reasons to go beyond our Major Premise to have discussions about chiropractic philosophy. I we do go beyond, only speculations and conjectures will result. We cannot use deductive reasoning in the metaphysical realms. Usually it requires faith as a method of perception.
Having said that, the law of gravity is a UNIVERSAL law. A universe must exist, and as we know it, to be a universe there must be matter. Through deductive reasoning principle #2 states: “The expression of this intelligence through matter is the chiropractic meaning of life.” Without intelligence matter could not even exist. We are equalling life with existence and that’s a deduction from the Major Premise.
Without matter intelligence could not be expressed which is a deduction of principle #2. We are discussing UNIVERSAL life and this UNIVERSAL life if necessarily the union of intelligence and matter
(pri.3) The function of intelligence is to create force (pri.9) and the function of force is to unite intelligence and matter (pri.10).
Chiropractic restores the integrity of the triune by dealing with its second united factor which is FORCE. The vertebral subluxation alters the MENTAL impulse (“adapted” innate force) by reversing it to a chemo-electric impulse (“unadapted” universal force). The LACVS reverse the chemo-electrical impulse (“unadapted”universal force) back to a MENTAL impulse (“adapted” innate force). In one of my previous posts, I asked if intelligence could exist without matter? And if so, what would be the function of force without matter since the function of intelligence is to create force (pri.9)?
Drew’s statement needs clarification. What I was leading to is that intelligence ALWAYS has a function which is to create force and the real question is what would be the function of force without the existence of matter?
And the answer does NOT require us to go beyond our Major Premise. So no headaches,!!! Only logical deductive reasoning from our START point: “There is a UNIVERSAL intelligence in ALL matter constantly giving to it ALL its properties and activity, thereby maintaining it in existence”.
From our Major Premise START point, our logical deductive reasoning leads us to state that: “UNIVERSAL life is a triunity having THREE NECESSARY united factors that is intelligence, force and matter (pri.4) and of these 3 united factors, ALL of them are NECESSARY! If any one of these 3 united factors that is intelligence, force and matter is NOT present, we would have to blog beyond our UNIVERSE as we know it and move into metaphysical realms. We would have to go beyond our MP and it is not the purpose of chiropractic philosophy which is based of logical deductive reasoning from a START point which is our MP.