Life experience can teach us a lot if we take the time to learn from it but it seems that the more intelligent actions that we make come from “thinking it through” first before taking the action, so I have to agree with Joe.
There is a difference between thinking, something educated does, what we do when we philosophize, problem solve, etc. AND thinking, something that universal or innate int. does, as in maintain existence thru intelligence expressed thru matter ui, or adapt those universal forces to allow all parts of an organism (alive), to have coordinated action for mutual benefit, fulfilling their offices and purposes, maintaining active organization, biologically alive and always Transforming.
Then there is the THINKING of I’ll say A creator, that maintains P1 in existence (pardon my reaching before the bounds of NTOSC )
That which initiates 1st cause and drives a purposeful Living Existence,
Being aware, is understanding maximally the biggest picture, an ADIO viewpoint and operating, Living from that vantage point. Aware, humble and joyful.
Creators mind reigns bigger than innate mind, bigger than educated mind.
That is a Big Idea. And what follows in part are the 33Ps. That is awareness, thinking without interference, in joyfull, sometimes painful, transformation. A thought, outside the box
You must think before you can act. The educated body only follows the thought of the educated brain. They have institutions and medications for people who “live (their) way into a new way of thinking.”
Hi Joe,
Nice to see your thoughts >> actions at work.
I’m in total agreement with your rebuttal.
And matter (emotions), shape the thought and thus
The action.
Eg. Yelling fire in a crowd of people.
A thought might begin the process, but all bets are
Off on what an emotional TINGING will lead to.
There is Always an emotional undercurrent(educated and matter)
In the end, it’s what a person feels or doesn’t feel
That maneuvers the will, reason and action.
Maybe the word, the subject of thought encompasses to huge a range
of function to be limited to one word.
Can thought exist without words? Of course.
It happens every time an artist or athlete is in the zone.
The subconscious (thots). Emotions certainly influence the outcome of performance. (Nervousness, confidence, etc. )
Maybe Thot is a more accurate concept than the term Thought?
‘As a man Thoteth’
Can you ‘Live Your Way’ without thinking first?
Can an action preceed a thought?
What ADIO principle would this be?
Be Do Have, Act as if, Tell the story over and over,
WHO is doing the thinking?
Can a thought preceed ‘free will’?
Where does ‘As A Man Thinketh’ begin in relation to Chiropractic (33P’s)? Before? During After? 😉
If you change the thought, IF YOU CAN CHANGE THE THOUGHT – (NOT SEE EASY!!!!), you will change the action (cause and effect). If you change an action, you might change a thought that will change the next action.
How can you get to a different level of thinking for the solution of the problem that your original thoughts created? –
– “A man’s got to know his limitations” and let go of his thought-process. He will surprise himself with the act that he has just performed. Then his way of thinking is transformed .
Late September 1954, a young man walks the streets of NYC and comes across a sign: “Frank Peruso, Chiropractor”. Suffering from severe allergies and remembering his wife having read something about chiropractic and allergies, it is he WHO chooses to enter the office, NOT knowing WHY. This ACT of his, TRANSFORMS his thinking, his life and the practice of chiropractic. He was famous for saying, “Everything I am, everything I do, everything I have… I owe to chiropractic and if you’re not out there to change the world, everything else is Mickey Mouse”. –
– November 1973, another young man, barely speaking English, walks on Broadway in NYC, after having dropped out of St John University in Jamaïca, NY. Someone calls his name on the sidewalk. Both engaged in conversation and entered Columbia Institute of Chiropractic to meet, ninth quarter student, Irene Gold. NOT understanding why he made this choice, it nevertheless TRANSFORMS his thinking and his life. He is the one WHO chooses to say”, “You do NOT think your life into a new way of living, you LIVE your life into a NEW way of thinking”. –
– I am convinced you have witnessed, at least, one silmilar story in your practice over the years. Am I right?
There are many things we do each day without “pre-meditated” intentional thought. However, I believe most of us have some sort of basic philosophy of life that becomes the “rudder” for all of our actions and leads us to what we decide to do and not to do. So I still believe that the internal is what steers the external.
Righty so! “Once there was a fork on the road and it is me WHO chose the road less travelled” BY LETTING GO OF MY EDUCATED MIND with its already preconceived “rudder”… which totally affected by VS. –
– Great reason to be an objective chiropractor don’t you THINK!!!
A choice connotes and is preceded by thought…unless it was done by the flip of a coin. But you have to first choose/think/decide to flip a coin.
There was no “Reply” button on your comment of 6/28/16 11:34am but that is what I am responding to.
Chiropractic’s statement: GET THE BIG IDEA – ALL ELSE FOLLOWS is an example to me of “thought” being first – then action.
Can you ‘Live Your Way’ without thinking first? NO!
Can an action preceed a thought?NO
What ADIO principle would this be?none, it’s a combination of common sense and neurophysiology
Be Do Have, Act as if, Tell the story over and over,
WHO is doing the thinking?
Can a thought preceed ‘free will’? Free will connotes thought. It is free will, not FREE OF will. Robots do not think, someone has programmed their “thinking”/actions.
Where does ‘As A Man Thinketh’ begin in relation to Chiropractic (33P’s)? Before? During After? ?
If you change the thought, IF YOU CAN CHANGE THE THOUGHT – (NOT SEE EASY!!!!), you will change the action (cause and effect). If you change an action, you might change a thought that will change the next action. Good observation
“As a man thinketh” is really referring to how does one
Exercise their Free Will, with The ability to choose, and allow for growth, for Change.
This involves stepping outside of one self if you will.
It is educated modeled after an innate (27) principle.
Experientially it feels foolish, frightening, foreign.
It is a road less traveled. It involved Chance.
The transformation happens in the Checking of the Slipping whether that is of action or of mental discipline and bravery.
One needs to walk a big idea (principal) in spite of the voices speaking in the box one finds oneself.
It takes guts, maturity, luck, experience, etc.
I guess all these attributes make up part of in the least of what we calling
Living
Our frame of reference which includes our world and life viewpoint,ADIO or OIBU and previous understanding (thoughts,hopefully based upon an ADIO viewpoint.). As David says our emotions may also “tinge” those thoughts (good or bad,”all bets are off”-is there really a fire?)
In my Mirrian-Webster it defines THINK as: 1) to form or have in the mind. 2) to have as an opinion:believe 3) to reflect on: ponder 4) to call to mind: remember 5) to devise by thinking 6) to form a mental picture of :imagine 7) reason
Cerebral is of the brain (Mirriam-Webster)… cerebral is an ACTivity of the brain which is physical is it not? 😉
In reply to “cerebral” being an action of the brain – you could bring it down to action in all matter between the atoms, electrons, etc. So there is action in all things at all times.
Yes, David, –
– It is at principle #2 that chiropractic appropriates itself of the major premise which belongs to ALL of the universe. Universal intelligence maintaining universal life (existence) is that which is primary CAUSE in chiropractic. EVERYTHING else follows as effects from that cause. Therefore, concerning e/matter… it is existence, universal life, living… that provides the information necessary to TRANSFORM people’s thinking pattern. –
– A chiropractor WHO practices the chiropractic objective, LACVS for a FULL expression of the innate FORCES of the innate intelligence of the body, PERIOD, and participates in in maintaining the integrity of the principle of coordination (32). –
Yes, your deduction is correct! “So there is action in all things at all times”. That is existence (pri2) and life (pri20). Existence and life, according to the authority of the 33 principle of chiropractic’s basic science, come BEFORE thinking thoughts. Our start point is the major premise (A universal intelligence IS…) which is appropriated by chiropractic with principle # 2 !!!! Therefore, I maintain that you LIVE yourself into a NEW way of thinking… you don’t think yourself into a NEW way of living. If you want to contest it, take it up with the 33 principles. 😉 –
– Remember that, according to Einstein, “any level of thinking will create a problem, the solution of which is found at a different level of thinking”. HOW will you get to that DIFFERENT level of thinking? By adding MORE thinking? How do you put out fire? By adding MORE fire? How do you stop a flood? By adding MORE water? Hmmm…
Let’s assume that ‘LIVING Yourself into a NEW…’ is the bottom line. Personally my understanding is still not resolved with the apple/orange analysis I have posed comparing the lets say process of Living to Thinking, where the former is 33P wise, a relationship of the triune as defined by a p2, Thinking is something we speculate to coexist with or as something, perhaps =Force, in the Triune.
I can Think actively, and thought occurs perhaps always, that frames our viewpoints and prowls the realms of consciousness and subconsciousness.
Living one does not do, at the innate level. But when we say Live your Life, that references ones act of Will, of choice.
Anyway suggest to me, to all of us, if you can what you mean by
Living yourself to a New Level, and Do Not Think of a PINK Elephant ?
– I’m sure that you’ve experienced “living yourself into a NEW way of thinking”. Ex: Someone is prejudiced again the medical profession. One day that person has a heart attack and is admitted (unconscious) through 911 at the hospital where his life is saved by surgery and medications. Living through these events TRANSFORM his thinking and he now “THINKS” that medical care has ancertain value that he never thought before. He has lived, this moment of his life, into a NEW way of thinking, has he not?
And the person used to smoke. Now they quit. Has a new way of thinking. A few months, back to bad habits, thinking their old way.
Don’t you see people sometimes and thru the trials and tribulations of life, they do not change. Yes I know. That’s the matter aspect. Yes. Some, few people do change. Some.
Transform? Rare. The viewpoint, the fundamental nature has been my observation not change no matter what.
Moment to moment. Yes. Change. Permanently? Nope.
Am I missing something here Doc?
You’re right! Attempting to be transformed by thinking doesn’t last. 😉
Claude, attempting to be transformed by thinking may not work permanently BUT it does work. Knowing that eating “real food” as opposed to processed food is the key that helps me to make better choices and then the result is better function. If I just “live” and not “think” consciously, I will always choose the quickest and easiest and “junkier” of foods because for the present moment it feels better. But in the long run I feel lousy because of my choice. But if I take the time to think about the result of choosing “fast food” I will more often than not choose to eat healthier even though it takes more time & effort on my part. So taking the time to “think it through” helped me make the better choice.
Hmmmm.
Do you have to be unconscious or so in the moment that you are in a flowing moment conscious that allows experience to carry you along to a new point in time when you’ve transformed.
Sounds like hypnosis as a non educated spontaneous action.
It’s not that complicated. Its not hypnosis. It’s just the way it works with the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science. Our job is to practice the chiropractic objective… the rest follows. 🙂
The rest follows. Is transformation empirical or a deduction?
Life is intelligence united by force to matter which it is expressed with. P2. Life is the relationship of those 3 realities. It is implicit in the relationship, as observed, as defined.
There is thinking, an action producing though and Thought, some process or interaction between intelligence and matter. I believe it has been linked or associated with Force.
To Live, Living if you will is an action that connotes Will, or Intent.
Yet it is something that just IS, as the triune relationship that I speak of. Maybe it’s the usage of a word, life or live that has different meanings of connotations in different contexts.
A bit of a confusion or perhaps a representation of the limits of a thought process, thinking, limited by the words that much thought is tooled by.
Clarify please ?
You asked: “Is transformation empirical or a deduction?” Take a real look at yourself and tell me if YOUR transformation from a zygote, to an embryo, to a foetus, to a newborn, to an infant, to a toddler, to a child, to an adolescent, to a young adult, to an adult, to a SENIOR… and tell us what YOU “see”. 😉
I see the life of a man, on a journey, starting out as a continuation of the life seed(s)-xy. Going thru stages of human development and living, getting as we say, older, having changed in many ways and remained the same in many ways. In many many ways as you have so Bluntly ? Pointed out, I AM just like every one else, and perhaps less so, but significant none the less, uniquely different, in part due to the amalgamation of my parent DNA, unique coded matter, and in part due to my individual Innate Intelligence being normal, and in part I Presume because of my individuated Soul (not Chiropractic)
Yet in all of this, and I believe you want me to say Transformation, while I
have transformed, its all rather predictably THE SAME. I as I have had little to do with it. The transformation may in part be reaction (eg. as a result to loss, LOM, or trauma, but not so different than my brothers and sisters of fellow humans), matter and life reacting.
But and here’s the rub. MY CHOICES HAVE NOT EFFECTED ANYTHING IN THE REALM OF A TRANSFORMATION, UNDER MY CONTROL OR AS SOME THING THAT REPRESENTS A POSITIVE DIRECTION UNDER MY CONTROL, MY WILL.
I remain the same pitiful example of The Common Man. I’ve gone thru forks, and hope to much more, and I hope. I strive. I predictably change from zygote to Senior, like you and them, but I remain the same flawed and unfulfilled, the same talented and loved and loving, the same unique hodgepodge of a life and soul I always was and will be, probably till the day I die, as we all do till the end of this journey at least. The only transformation I possess could be from the love I have for my wife and daughter and other loved ones. Personally, alone, of myself for myself I WISH I PRAY FOR TRANSFORMATION THAT I SEEK, NOT THAT SEEKS ME.
I NEED TO BE FREE AND IN CONTROL AND NOT TRAPPED.
Forgive my blabbering to perhaps your simple question ?
You posted “BUT it works”… With thinking, sometimes it does… it’s rarely permanent. Thinking is about knowledge which is rarely enough to transform anything. What is needed, is AWARENESS! Re-read my posts above… To live as an experience is to be called to awareness. –
– Ex: Today everyone knows that smoking causes lung cancer. People smoke anyway regardless of the warning labels. Now, a woman who smokes has a chest MRI and is shown a spot on her lungs that is cancer. At that instant moment, she throws away her cigarettes and NEVER smoke again… she is transformed permanently!!!! She has lived herself into a NEW way of thinking.
Let me probe.
You said:
BY the way, the quality of the perception
1. What do you mean, quality of?
living is DIRECTLY dependent on the state of the TRANSMISSION of mental impulses! ?
2. State of transmission? Interference vs no interference?
Sometimes you wax poetic or use non Chiro lexicon terms that I don’t understand.
Again. Try harder if you can.
Living yourself into a new state of thinking. Awareness.
I want to live myself into a new state of thinking, generating more awareness.
How?
What does one do? What do my patients do.
What does an adjustment and a further understanding of the 33Ps allow for with regard to living yourself into a new state of awareness?
????
From the authority of the 33 principles of chiropractic ‘s basic science, the quality of perception is dependent upon TRANSMISSION of mental impulses. VS interferes with TRANSMISSION! –
You ask “How?”, by NOT doing anything else. After LACVS for a full expression of the innate forces of the innate intelligence of the body… there IS a PERIOD. So simple isn’t it? – WHY complicating simple. Let’s get to work… Shall we? 😉
Claude, isn’t it you who say it the other way around – that you live your way into a new way of thinking???
Yes!!!
Life experience can teach us a lot if we take the time to learn from it but it seems that the more intelligent actions that we make come from “thinking it through” first before taking the action, so I have to agree with Joe.
The greatest ACT is COMPLETE absurdity (foolishness) to the thinking mind. Look around and tell me if your mind could have produced this ACT! 😉
No comprende – cannot follow what you just wrote.
That is the thinking of an atheist and I know you are not one of them.My mind could not produce that ACT but a MIND could and did.
Well said. Very thoughtful!
There is a difference between thinking, something educated does, what we do when we philosophize, problem solve, etc. AND thinking, something that universal or innate int. does, as in maintain existence thru intelligence expressed thru matter ui, or adapt those universal forces to allow all parts of an organism (alive), to have coordinated action for mutual benefit, fulfilling their offices and purposes, maintaining active organization, biologically alive and always Transforming.
Then there is the THINKING of I’ll say A creator, that maintains P1 in existence (pardon my reaching before the bounds of NTOSC )
That which initiates 1st cause and drives a purposeful Living Existence,
Being aware, is understanding maximally the biggest picture, an ADIO viewpoint and operating, Living from that vantage point. Aware, humble and joyful.
Creators mind reigns bigger than innate mind, bigger than educated mind.
That is a Big Idea. And what follows in part are the 33Ps. That is awareness, thinking without interference, in joyfull, sometimes painful, transformation. A thought, outside the box
You must think before you can act. The educated body only follows the thought of the educated brain. They have institutions and medications for people who “live (their) way into a new way of thinking.”
Hi Joe,
Nice to see your thoughts >> actions at work.
I’m in total agreement with your rebuttal.
And matter (emotions), shape the thought and thus
The action.
Eg. Yelling fire in a crowd of people.
A thought might begin the process, but all bets are
Off on what an emotional TINGING will lead to.
There is Always an emotional undercurrent(educated and matter)
In the end, it’s what a person feels or doesn’t feel
That maneuvers the will, reason and action.
Maybe the word, the subject of thought encompasses to huge a range
of function to be limited to one word.
Can thought exist without words? Of course.
It happens every time an artist or athlete is in the zone.
The subconscious (thots). Emotions certainly influence the outcome of performance. (Nervousness, confidence, etc. )
Maybe Thot is a more accurate concept than the term Thought?
‘As a man Thoteth’
Can you ‘Live Your Way’ without thinking first?
Can an action preceed a thought?
What ADIO principle would this be?
Be Do Have, Act as if, Tell the story over and over,
WHO is doing the thinking?
Can a thought preceed ‘free will’?
Where does ‘As A Man Thinketh’ begin in relation to Chiropractic (33P’s)? Before? During After? 😉
If you change the thought, IF YOU CAN CHANGE THE THOUGHT – (NOT SEE EASY!!!!), you will change the action (cause and effect). If you change an action, you might change a thought that will change the next action.
Got Chiropractic? 😉
Straight,
How can you get to a different level of thinking for the solution of the problem that your original thoughts created? –
– “A man’s got to know his limitations” and let go of his thought-process. He will surprise himself with the act that he has just performed. Then his way of thinking is transformed .
Late September 1954, a young man walks the streets of NYC and comes across a sign: “Frank Peruso, Chiropractor”. Suffering from severe allergies and remembering his wife having read something about chiropractic and allergies, it is he WHO chooses to enter the office, NOT knowing WHY. This ACT of his, TRANSFORMS his thinking, his life and the practice of chiropractic. He was famous for saying, “Everything I am, everything I do, everything I have… I owe to chiropractic and if you’re not out there to change the world, everything else is Mickey Mouse”. –
– November 1973, another young man, barely speaking English, walks on Broadway in NYC, after having dropped out of St John University in Jamaïca, NY. Someone calls his name on the sidewalk. Both engaged in conversation and entered Columbia Institute of Chiropractic to meet, ninth quarter student, Irene Gold. NOT understanding why he made this choice, it nevertheless TRANSFORMS his thinking and his life. He is the one WHO chooses to say”, “You do NOT think your life into a new way of living, you LIVE your life into a NEW way of thinking”. –
– I am convinced you have witnessed, at least, one silmilar story in your practice over the years. Am I right?
There are many things we do each day without “pre-meditated” intentional thought. However, I believe most of us have some sort of basic philosophy of life that becomes the “rudder” for all of our actions and leads us to what we decide to do and not to do. So I still believe that the internal is what steers the external.
Righty so! “Once there was a fork on the road and it is me WHO chose the road less travelled” BY LETTING GO OF MY EDUCATED MIND with its already preconceived “rudder”… which totally affected by VS. –
– Great reason to be an objective chiropractor don’t you THINK!!!
A choice connotes and is preceded by thought…unless it was done by the flip of a coin. But you have to first choose/think/decide to flip a coin.
There was no “Reply” button on your comment of 6/28/16 11:34am but that is what I am responding to.
Chiropractic’s statement: GET THE BIG IDEA – ALL ELSE FOLLOWS is an example to me of “thought” being first – then action.
Can you ‘Live Your Way’ without thinking first? NO!
Can an action preceed a thought?NO
What ADIO principle would this be?none, it’s a combination of common sense and neurophysiology
Be Do Have, Act as if, Tell the story over and over,
WHO is doing the thinking?
Can a thought preceed ‘free will’? Free will connotes thought. It is free will, not FREE OF will. Robots do not think, someone has programmed their “thinking”/actions.
Where does ‘As A Man Thinketh’ begin in relation to Chiropractic (33P’s)? Before? During After? ?
If you change the thought, IF YOU CAN CHANGE THE THOUGHT – (NOT SEE EASY!!!!), you will change the action (cause and effect). If you change an action, you might change a thought that will change the next action. Good observation
Got Chiropractic? ?
“As a man thinketh” is really referring to how does one
Exercise their Free Will, with The ability to choose, and allow for growth, for Change.
This involves stepping outside of one self if you will.
It is educated modeled after an innate (27) principle.
Experientially it feels foolish, frightening, foreign.
It is a road less traveled. It involved Chance.
The transformation happens in the Checking of the Slipping whether that is of action or of mental discipline and bravery.
One needs to walk a big idea (principal) in spite of the voices speaking in the box one finds oneself.
It takes guts, maturity, luck, experience, etc.
I guess all these attributes make up part of in the least of what we calling
Living
David,
YES! “It is the BIGGEST IDEA I know of.” –
– “Choose what is right, not expedient and wash (let go of) your (educated) mind of ALL compromise” 😉
Joseph,
Merriam-Webster defines thinking as: the ACT of using your mind… Since it is an ACT, what comes before the ACT of thinking?
Life
Our frame of reference which includes our world and life viewpoint,ADIO or OIBU and previous understanding (thoughts,hopefully based upon an ADIO viewpoint.). As David says our emotions may also “tinge” those thoughts (good or bad,”all bets are off”-is there really a fire?)
In my Mirrian-Webster it defines THINK as: 1) to form or have in the mind. 2) to have as an opinion:believe 3) to reflect on: ponder 4) to call to mind: remember 5) to devise by thinking 6) to form a mental picture of :imagine 7) reason
Sounds more cerebral than physical to me.
Cerebral is of the brain (Mirriam-Webster)… cerebral is an ACTivity of the brain which is physical is it not? 😉
In reply to “cerebral” being an action of the brain – you could bring it down to action in all matter between the atoms, electrons, etc. So there is action in all things at all times.
Yes, David, –
– It is at principle #2 that chiropractic appropriates itself of the major premise which belongs to ALL of the universe. Universal intelligence maintaining universal life (existence) is that which is primary CAUSE in chiropractic. EVERYTHING else follows as effects from that cause. Therefore, concerning e/matter… it is existence, universal life, living… that provides the information necessary to TRANSFORM people’s thinking pattern. –
– A chiropractor WHO practices the chiropractic objective, LACVS for a FULL expression of the innate FORCES of the innate intelligence of the body, PERIOD, and participates in in maintaining the integrity of the principle of coordination (32). –
Straight,
Straight,
Yes, your deduction is correct! “So there is action in all things at all times”. That is existence (pri2) and life (pri20). Existence and life, according to the authority of the 33 principle of chiropractic’s basic science, come BEFORE thinking thoughts. Our start point is the major premise (A universal intelligence IS…) which is appropriated by chiropractic with principle # 2 !!!! Therefore, I maintain that you LIVE yourself into a NEW way of thinking… you don’t think yourself into a NEW way of living. If you want to contest it, take it up with the 33 principles. 😉 –
– Remember that, according to Einstein, “any level of thinking will create a problem, the solution of which is found at a different level of thinking”. HOW will you get to that DIFFERENT level of thinking? By adding MORE thinking? How do you put out fire? By adding MORE fire? How do you stop a flood? By adding MORE water? Hmmm…
Let’s assume that ‘LIVING Yourself into a NEW…’ is the bottom line. Personally my understanding is still not resolved with the apple/orange analysis I have posed comparing the lets say process of Living to Thinking, where the former is 33P wise, a relationship of the triune as defined by a p2, Thinking is something we speculate to coexist with or as something, perhaps =Force, in the Triune.
I can Think actively, and thought occurs perhaps always, that frames our viewpoints and prowls the realms of consciousness and subconsciousness.
Living one does not do, at the innate level. But when we say Live your Life, that references ones act of Will, of choice.
Anyway suggest to me, to all of us, if you can what you mean by
Living yourself to a New Level, and Do Not Think of a PINK Elephant ?
David,
Re-read my post of 6/27/16 1:43pm. –
– I’m sure that you’ve experienced “living yourself into a NEW way of thinking”. Ex: Someone is prejudiced again the medical profession. One day that person has a heart attack and is admitted (unconscious) through 911 at the hospital where his life is saved by surgery and medications. Living through these events TRANSFORM his thinking and he now “THINKS” that medical care has ancertain value that he never thought before. He has lived, this moment of his life, into a NEW way of thinking, has he not?
And the person used to smoke. Now they quit. Has a new way of thinking. A few months, back to bad habits, thinking their old way.
Don’t you see people sometimes and thru the trials and tribulations of life, they do not change. Yes I know. That’s the matter aspect. Yes. Some, few people do change. Some.
Transform? Rare. The viewpoint, the fundamental nature has been my observation not change no matter what.
Moment to moment. Yes. Change. Permanently? Nope.
Am I missing something here Doc?
You’re right! Attempting to be transformed by thinking doesn’t last. 😉
Claude, attempting to be transformed by thinking may not work permanently BUT it does work. Knowing that eating “real food” as opposed to processed food is the key that helps me to make better choices and then the result is better function. If I just “live” and not “think” consciously, I will always choose the quickest and easiest and “junkier” of foods because for the present moment it feels better. But in the long run I feel lousy because of my choice. But if I take the time to think about the result of choosing “fast food” I will more often than not choose to eat healthier even though it takes more time & effort on my part. So taking the time to “think it through” helped me make the better choice.
Hmmmm.
Do you have to be unconscious or so in the moment that you are in a flowing moment conscious that allows experience to carry you along to a new point in time when you’ve transformed.
Sounds like hypnosis as a non educated spontaneous action.
It’s not that complicated. Its not hypnosis. It’s just the way it works with the 33 principles of chiropractic’s basic science. Our job is to practice the chiropractic objective… the rest follows. 🙂
The rest follows. Is transformation empirical or a deduction?
Life is intelligence united by force to matter which it is expressed with. P2. Life is the relationship of those 3 realities. It is implicit in the relationship, as observed, as defined.
There is thinking, an action producing though and Thought, some process or interaction between intelligence and matter. I believe it has been linked or associated with Force.
To Live, Living if you will is an action that connotes Will, or Intent.
Yet it is something that just IS, as the triune relationship that I speak of. Maybe it’s the usage of a word, life or live that has different meanings of connotations in different contexts.
A bit of a confusion or perhaps a representation of the limits of a thought process, thinking, limited by the words that much thought is tooled by.
Clarify please ?
David,
You asked: “Is transformation empirical or a deduction?” Take a real look at yourself and tell me if YOUR transformation from a zygote, to an embryo, to a foetus, to a newborn, to an infant, to a toddler, to a child, to an adolescent, to a young adult, to an adult, to a SENIOR… and tell us what YOU “see”. 😉
I see the life of a man, on a journey, starting out as a continuation of the life seed(s)-xy. Going thru stages of human development and living, getting as we say, older, having changed in many ways and remained the same in many ways. In many many ways as you have so Bluntly ? Pointed out, I AM just like every one else, and perhaps less so, but significant none the less, uniquely different, in part due to the amalgamation of my parent DNA, unique coded matter, and in part due to my individual Innate Intelligence being normal, and in part I Presume because of my individuated Soul (not Chiropractic)
Yet in all of this, and I believe you want me to say Transformation, while I
have transformed, its all rather predictably THE SAME. I as I have had little to do with it. The transformation may in part be reaction (eg. as a result to loss, LOM, or trauma, but not so different than my brothers and sisters of fellow humans), matter and life reacting.
But and here’s the rub. MY CHOICES HAVE NOT EFFECTED ANYTHING IN THE REALM OF A TRANSFORMATION, UNDER MY CONTROL OR AS SOME THING THAT REPRESENTS A POSITIVE DIRECTION UNDER MY CONTROL, MY WILL.
I remain the same pitiful example of The Common Man. I’ve gone thru forks, and hope to much more, and I hope. I strive. I predictably change from zygote to Senior, like you and them, but I remain the same flawed and unfulfilled, the same talented and loved and loving, the same unique hodgepodge of a life and soul I always was and will be, probably till the day I die, as we all do till the end of this journey at least. The only transformation I possess could be from the love I have for my wife and daughter and other loved ones. Personally, alone, of myself for myself I WISH I PRAY FOR TRANSFORMATION THAT I SEEK, NOT THAT SEEKS ME.
I NEED TO BE FREE AND IN CONTROL AND NOT TRAPPED.
Forgive my blabbering to perhaps your simple question ?
I’m sorry. Let me be more precise. What do you see is YOUR personal transformation from zygote to senior. Empirical or a deduction?
?um, both?
Empirical-experience,observation
Deduction-problem solving
Straight,
You posted “BUT it works”… With thinking, sometimes it does… it’s rarely permanent. Thinking is about knowledge which is rarely enough to transform anything. What is needed, is AWARENESS! Re-read my posts above… To live as an experience is to be called to awareness. –
– Ex: Today everyone knows that smoking causes lung cancer. People smoke anyway regardless of the warning labels. Now, a woman who smokes has a chest MRI and is shown a spot on her lungs that is cancer. At that instant moment, she throws away her cigarettes and NEVER smoke again… she is transformed permanently!!!! She has lived herself into a NEW way of thinking.
BY the way, the quality of the perception of living is DIRECTLY dependent on the state of the TRANSMISSION of mental impulses! 😉
What you are saying dear Claude is that pain motivates more than pleasure.
No thought. Just emotional fear. Aye?
IAWARENESS of reality IS what it is!!! Painful or pleasurable is dependent on e/matter. 😉
… furthermore, there is joy in awareness in spite of the pain. WHY?
That’s a good question. And how does one become aware fully
Let me probe.
You said:
BY the way, the quality of the perception
1. What do you mean, quality of?
living is DIRECTLY dependent on the state of the TRANSMISSION of mental impulses! ?
2. State of transmission? Interference vs no interference?
Sometimes you wax poetic or use non Chiro lexicon terms that I don’t understand.
Again. Try harder if you can.
Living yourself into a new state of thinking. Awareness.
I want to live myself into a new state of thinking, generating more awareness.
How?
What does one do? What do my patients do.
What does an adjustment and a further understanding of the 33Ps allow for with regard to living yourself into a new state of awareness?
????
From the authority of the 33 principles of chiropractic ‘s basic science, the quality of perception is dependent upon TRANSMISSION of mental impulses. VS interferes with TRANSMISSION! –
You ask “How?”, by NOT doing anything else. After LACVS for a full expression of the innate forces of the innate intelligence of the body… there IS a PERIOD. So simple isn’t it? – WHY complicating simple. Let’s get to work… Shall we? 😉