Application

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  1. – The GENIUS of the 33 principles is that they do not mention anything regarding theology, sociology, astronomy, gravity or getting sick people well (physically, mentally, socially or spiritually). –

    – The 33 principles of chiropractic articulate the relationship between intelligence, force and matter (living and non-living), and the consequences of interference of forces within the LIVING matter. –

    – The 33 principles of chiropractic deal with function, cause, effect, mission, limitation, character, normality, conduction, dis-ease, subluxation, coordination, demand and supply. –

    – To translate the 33 principles of chiropractic is the servanthood of the OSC WHO chooses to practice the objective of chiropractic.

    _ ALL about the WHO ! 🙂

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    • Claude,

      Hate to keep being the fly in the ointment, but I can’t stand to see you keep shooting yourself in the foot! While the greater part of what you express here is apparently true, the theology part is quite simply wrong. Here it is straight from Stephenson himself. These two quotes are directly from “The Chiropractic Textbook”:
      “It [ui] occupies all space and distance. It has existed always. It is
      older, wiser, greater, stronger and better than anything in the
      Universe. It created everything and must have been first and
      indefinitely superior in order to do it. It must have been and is
      VERY intelligent. Having these virtues it must have never made a
      mistake and therefore is always right. Being always right is always
      good. Being infinitely good is God. (See Webster for definition of
      God.)”
      And again regarding UI:
      Art. 8. CHIROPRACTIC IS A DEDUCTIVE SCIENCE.
      Chiropractic is a deductive science. The deductions are based
      upon a major premise that life is intelligent; that there is an
      Intelligent Creator, Who created matter, attends to its existence
      and gives to it all that it has. Many of the deductions are now
      proven facts because of thousands of clinical findings supporting
      them; and thousands of observations of the Laws of this
      Intelligence. The theories and hypotheses of Chiropractic are based
      upon these proven deductions which render them plausible,
      and nearly every year some of these theories
      become proven as solid facts of science.”
      So you see DD, BJ and RWS were all about giving the Major Premise and the 33 principles a theological staring point. UI was not a law by their intent, but an expression for God.
      This part of the original chiropractic philosophy “is what it is”, and it is wrong to try and obscure it by changing the way terms are defined. It needs no “translating” either. It is simple English.
      Now this does not mean you need agree with it! You certainly may choose to disagree, and that is fine. But you have no right to change the meaning of expression you did not create.
      If you OSC guys are so OCD about keeping GOD out of “TIC”, then why not just re-write your own philosophy from scratch and coin your own phrases? This would be more intellectually honest …would it not?

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    • Claude,

      The Major Premise is the first of the 33 principles and the one from which all the others are deduced! And it is undeniably intended to be a statement which has a theological connotation! Stephenson (your GENIUS) says that chiropractic is a deductive science, and that its deductions are based on the major premise…which is undeniable theological as he describes it! And therefore elements of theology are expensed-out across all 33! However in defence of your postiion, he also says this:
      ” It is not theology [chiropractic philosophy]. While it may
      mention these things in passing it deals with them scarcely
      at all. Chiropractic Philosophy pertains more to the working principles of Chiropractic.”
      So while there are indeed theological elements in chiropractic philosophy, it is not theology in the sense that it is fully devoted to a study of God…but rather a study of life, from which God is inseparable.
      So can you not see how a statement like “ui cannot be God”, or “the 33 principles do not mention anything regarding theology” really do not reflect what the authors of chiropractic philosophy intended?

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      • Eric,

        I will re-state it in a different way::

        – The 33 principles of chiropractic enunciate the RELATIONSHIP of intelligence, force and matter (living and non-living) and the CAUSE of dis-ease which is the vertebral subluxation. –

        – The 33 principles of chiropractic establish through deductive reasoning a foundational perception based on rationalization forming its philosophy, science and art. –

        – The 33 principles of chiropractic deal with function, cause, effect, limitation, character, normality, conduction, dis-ease, coordination, subluxation, demand and supply.-

        – To translate and apply the 33 principles of chiropractic is the servanthood of the OSC WHO chooses to practice the objective of chiropractic which is to locate, analyze and correct vertebral subluxation for a full expression of the innate forces of the innate intelligence of the body. PERIOD.

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        • This is all good Claude, until some intelligent person who is actually paying attention asks you what you mean by “intelligence”. What would you tell him “intelligence” is in this context? Where would you tell him this “intelligence” comes from if you were asked such a question?

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          • Claude,

            No – because I define what is meant by intelligence as I explain the philosophy. There is not need for the question because I explain what it means as I go…just as the Major Premise does if it is explained as it was originally intended.
            So I wound ask again: If you were asked, what would say this “intelligence” is in this context? Where would you say this “intelligence” comes from if you were asked such a question?

  2. If God is confined to just a Universal intelligence, then I guess We can deceide (at different adversities)to ALLOW God to be fully expressed or not? If there is interference God can’t help you, at least not Fully.

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    • Jim,

      I don’t see how chiropractic philosophy confines God at all. How does giving God credit for His creation confine Him?.

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      • Clear. Cogent. To the point. Monotheistic as compared to pantheistic; more religious than metaphysical; regardless, well said.

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        • …except to someone who has a pantheistic model of universal intelligence. Then you can spend hours discussing/arguing theology in a chiropractic setting, which does nothing to increase a PM’s understanding of chiropractic but it seems to be great fun for Eric. If asked where this intelligence comes from, (although, like Claude, I never have) I would say that “it is outside the realm of chiropractic philosophy (just like medical/disease discussions are) and it is not fair to my other PMs to take the time, but I would be happy to discuss my theology and beliefs, in fact I would enjoy that opportunity. When after, office hours, would be a good time for you?”

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          • … and re-defining ui as a “law of organization” drops our philosophy right into the pantheist’s lap… smacking of the notion that there is somehow within matter itself a “something or other” that organizes it! So which way do you want to have it Joe? I prefer to point out the “400 pound gorilla” in chiropractic philosophy for what it is – an expression of the Creator-creation dynamic. At least this is honest. And if someone wants to ask me if that is the God of the Bible or the Koran or the Torah or the generic “God possibility” of the agnostics, I tell them THAT is outside the scope of chiropractic philosophy. That works just fine and it keeps me from fibbing.

  3. Eric,

    After almost 40 years of chiropractic, not one person ever asked the questions you are asking. Chiropractic does not interfere with any creeds or religious belief systems. I tell people that chiropractic is separate and distinct. Its philosophy, science and art deal with the second component of the triune of life: FORCE. –

    – No theology, sociology, astronomy, physics, arts, or any sciences has ever done that so far, except chiropractic. This is WHAT is the GENIUS of chiropractic. –

    I have written about WHAT you are asking under the thread of Feb. 27, 2012 titled “UNIVERSAL INTELLIGENCE CANNOT BE GOD” posted on March 2, 2012 at 2:58am. You answered me that you regretted that I did not follow your logic and that you do not agree with me. I am fine with that.

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